TIps for mismatch complaints threads

[Flubber41]

TO skrags

I would agree that the March update to October update period might have been the worst for mismatches , mostly when engineers could crush non engineers ... my worst was two th11 offences and three th10 defences against a clan that had a top of th9 with zero anything of th10 or 11. The opponent perfectscore was a foregone conclusion and our getting a perfect would have required th9offences to three star three xbow and many other th10 defence ( but no infernos ) bases .

So matching and the game generally has definitely evolved a lot since I initially started this thread but it's still applicable . Too many people look at irrelevant stuff or defence only when proclaiming a mismatch .

[Skrags]

TO skrags

I would agree that the March update to October update period might have been the worst for mismatches , mostly when engineers could crush non engineers ... .

Hi, I was suggesting that the December 2015 to March 2016 period was probably worse, because there were some genuine serious mismatches (without engineered bases being involved). It was if SC forgot to put any weight on the EA or Grand Warden.

[ryryshouse]

Hi, I was suggesting that the December 2015 to March 2016 period was probably worse, because there were some genuine serious mismatches (without engineered bases being involved). It was if SC forgot to put any weight on the EA or Grand Warden.

lol

Our current match. I had to guess their weights. I think I am pretty close. Their top guy is totally maxed, think he has close to 50 new walls. maybe he will be 110. Their bottom 10 is a fresh 10, so 9 yet. ( no camps up yet either )

They have this thing at the bottom, the one cannon. th7 troops. th9 th.

regardless of how this war turns out, it is a waste. we are going to smoke some trash bases from 10 down. There are 5 legit TH9 bases here, 5,6,7,8,9

Anyway, I dont understand the point of this from the MM. no engineering involved here, it still sucks

US	AQ	BK	GW	Weight	per Slot diff	THEM	AQ	BK	GW	Weight
TH10	40	35		88	-20	TH11	45	41	20	108
TH10	40	39		88	-2	TH10	40	40		90
TH10	30	30		87	-1	TH10	25	25		88
TH10	40	38		87	0	TH10	16	12		87
TH9	30	30		70	0	TH10	30	30		70
TH9	30	30		70	1	TH9	22	20		69
TH9	30	30		70	1	TH9	23	25		69
TH9	30	30		70	1	TH9	12	13		69
TH9	30	30		70	3	TH9	20	16		67
TH9	30	30		69	2	TH9	16	15		67
TH9	30	30		69	2	TH9	11	12		67
TH9	30	23		69	3	TH9	11	12		66
TH9	30	26		68	2	TH9	13	12		66
TH9	24	25		68	2	TH9	11	12		66
TH9	29	58		67	1	TH9	14	13		66
TH9	30	28		67	2	TH9	8	10		65
TH9	20	17		67	3	TH9	6	10		64
TH9	16	16		63	8	TH9	8	10		55
TH9	15	15		61	6	TH9	13	14		55
TH9	14	12		59	19	TH9		6		30
	568	572			33		344	348

[TankSinatra]

Hi, I was suggesting that the December 2015 to March 2016 period was probably worse, because there were some genuine serious mismatches (without engineered bases being involved). It was if SC forgot to put any weight on the EA or Grand Warden.

That wasn't my experience but you might be right, I had no th11s and only early th10s in my clan, so I wouldn't have seen it. March update was horrible, but took a while to 'set in'. It was late summer when the population of lopsided bases had gotten out of control, there'd been enough time for the advantage to be noticed & acted on.

Another good question I think is, when has matchmaking been better? Perhaps for a short while before th11 dropped, perhaps never?

[ryryshouse]

Another good question I think is, when has matchmaking been better? Perhaps for a short while before th11 dropped, perhaps never?

I think mathematically speaking; it has to be better if the pool / roster / bases are closer in weight and offensive ability.

TH11 introduced another vector and the MM wasnt prepared.

[Flubber41]

Hi, I was suggesting that the December 2015 to March 2016 period was probably worse, because there were some genuine serious mismatches (without engineered bases being involved). It was if SC forgot to put any weight on the EA or Grand Warden.

Thanks for the clarification as I had not understood that correctly . WOrking from memory , we were headed by th9s when th11 dropped and didn't see much impact in our matches if we faced any in that period they would have been hopelessly rushed .. it was only after the March .. " let's almost ignore offense " update that we headed down the path toward the only terrible mismatches we saw which ultimately forced us onto a 9.5 path .

[Prince1999]

Well in my experience mismatches are now very common place... At least since the last big update to wars. We often find ourselves matched against opponents with much higher defences, heros and troops. On the odd occasion we will be the one that is much higher than an opponent, giving them no chance. Out of about the last 10 wars that we have had, only a couple of them were reasonably equal matches.

If you ask me, the matching system is broken. Shame really, CoC was a good game before then .

If you have a lopsided clan, mismatches will happen often. Some days you will be the hammer, some days you will be the nail...

Hey all,

How is Supercell working towards balancing Clan Wars matchmaking?

With every update there is the normal round of war matchmaking balance, and that will always shift things a bit. New troops/defenses/levels/stat changes get incorporated and weights are rebalanced according to troop usage and effectiveness.
In the last update we rolled out a couple of adjustments so that "lopsided" bases/clans don't have that much advantage as before, and the more extreme cases of lopsided clans will have a harder time finding a match, and will be matched with tougher opponents. We firmly believe in a good balance and will continue to monitor things and to roll out small (or bigger) adjustments to war matchmaking with every update.

[Flubber41]

If the best is not now , it's close . Every match whether I perceive a Slight advantage or disadvantage , I can understand how it can be seen as a pretty good match . Don't see any where one side clearly has the better defence AND offence .

We have had some really good stretches in the past though .. I recall a 5 war stretch with 2 ties and thee one star margins and shortly after ties ended I remember winning one and losing two in a three war stretch where the stars were tied in all three .

[Prince1999]

If the best is not now , it's close . Every match whether I perceive a Slight advantage or disadvantage , I can understand how it can be seen as a pretty good match . Don't see any where one side clearly has the better defence AND offence .

We have had some really good stretches in the past though .. I recall a 5 war stretch with 2 ties and thee one star margins and shortly after ties ended I remember winning one and losing two in a three war stretch where the stars were tied in all three .

I agree. We have had our best matches since October. We have not matched a single engineered clan and we have gone into every match with a chance to win or lose. Many matches have gone down to the last attacks.

[CosmicCharlie]

March update was terrible terrible terrible. We were a maxer clan. Rushing a wall piece would get you booted. We had solid war plans, lots of prep, war bases meticulously critiqued and only held on to the very best war attackers. 99% of the clans out there that were similar on offense or defense would get crushed. We had less than 10 losses ( almost all to modders) and were one of the very first clans to reach lvl 10. Then march came....we were soooo overmatched that the other clan could have barched a perfect war ( i attribute this to our green war log). Then clan pretty much fell apart after march, no one wanted to put in the same effort just to have our success held against us and to get constant mismatches. Then, engineering showed up. And then we just didnt give a ♥♥♥♥, all our top players just joined fwa clans. I dropped my inactive mini in as leader and left to start a new noob clan and basically just farm war stars for the achievement on my profile. I war with heros down and will barch a th4 for some stars. Im nearing 1k stars and will probably go FWA when i get 1k.

Before march i felt we were matched fairly based on offense and defense, we were just usually waaay better attackers and had a better plan.

Factoring the war log in was just dumb.

Its gotten a little better but my new clan was matched to 4 engineers in a row recently.

Thx for decimating one of the oldest clans on CoC.