My bad, I thought my clan is easy to find, and was so busy so did not reply.
You still can get in and check - I updated my profile with clan information.
I have new search in 30 min, so will update here how it will match or not )
PS: I see 10s of topics after this one, same trouble. People complain all the time...
Trying to join ... I am dad.... My son named my account when he showed me the game lol
10s of millions of people apparently play Clash of Clans. No matter what you do, a user population that size will have people sufficiently upset about something to complain, if given a forum. You have to be quite careful drawing conclusions from such feedback, which is usually not a well-distributed sampling.Originally Posted by MaxBusters
yes people complain .. Some complain about clan level or player level or other things that don't actually matter in a war . Others complain validly
max busters ... I would not support your view that your faced a mismatch in your most recent war . Yes you personally faced a number two that was defensively better than you by about a level or so but the opponent clan had a fundamental problem in that they did not have the better war troops . Your number one was stronger than theirs ( both max defensively with similar heros and walls but your number one had appreciably better troops ) . Down through the top 5 I think I saw equal or better troops in each of your team versus the opponent. I was not surprised that they were unable to even two star your top two bases and this is an advantage that is usually enough to win many wars .
i didn't look at the attacks themselves but I did see that both sides left lots of stars untaken down through the lineup and that you as a number two player three starred the opponents number 14 ??!!!! The war was lost as there were no three star attacks ... Well very few and you would have to explain how it came about that you as a th9 were taking a really weak th8 ??
I define a mismatch as a disparity in strength such that it is not possible to win if the opposing team exhibits reasonable skill. I don't see that you faced that here . Your opponents had weaker troops than you at the top end but better defences . I see those counterbalancing .... Well actually I tend to like the side with the better offense ( ie you ) since that's the position my clan is usually in ( we have weaker walls and heros) and we are winning regularly .
I see see no mismatch here . Might someone find an advantage one way or the other .. Sure the clans were not identical .. But something like a level3 xbow versus a level one is a tiny advantage and I would give that in a second if I get to have level 3 gollems to his level ones
Last edited by Flubber41; May 25th, 2015 at 07:41 PM.
- This is based on fact that they used 30% less attacks and still win. I told you, mismatch as an issue and win/loose 2 different things. As you can see, people win still having a mismatch, so had no luck, but I said - we could win this mismatch and the main reason is - other clan was not active at all and did not use their overpower of th9.I would not support your view that your faced a mismatch in your most recent war .
We were at win with 29-17 till last minute. They were absolutely passive for first 23.half hours of war, I call it luck for us. Used 14 attacks only out of 30.
- Each of their TH9 1-5 was better than me, I could be matched with their number 6, lowest th9. Which was matched vs our th8. As I can 3 star any th8, and th8 cant 3 star me or even 2 star its another mismatch that I already described.Yes you personally faced a number two that was defensively better than you by about a level or so
- U did not check it to the end. First of all I mentioned that our top 1 numbers matched well. Second, their 1 got max witches, and our top 1 witches lvl1.Your number one was stronger than theirs ( both max defensively with similar heros and walls but your number one had appreciably better troops )
- Cleanup last min, this was only one base 1stared left. If you can see we used 30 attacks and they used 21. I am surprized u ask this, as it was essential to take more stars than less. I was sad I had to go that low, but we war to maximize stars, not for loot or ego.that you as a number two player three starred the opponents number 14 ??!!
-I did detailed troops comparison for num 2-6.Down through the top 5 I think I saw equal or better troops in each of your team versus the opponent
2 our adv golem 2 vs 1
their adv barb 5-6, hogs 4-5, witch 1-2
Heroes queen 5-10
Is it equal or better? Can you say golem via much better hogs and witches? No way. Queen 10 vs 5 still doesnt count? haha
3 our adv pekka +2, golem +1
their adv barb +1, loons +1, witch via no witch.
I'd say this is about on par troopvise, slighly better for us. Sure you dont want to compare defence and heroes.
Queen 3 vs 9
4 our adv barb +1, golem +1
their adv loons +1, lava
Heroes Queen4 vs 8
5 our adv golems2 vs no golems.
their adv barb, arch, giants +1, baloons +2, maxed healer, Hogs +2
Queen 3 vs 8, king 5 vs 10.
6 none
their adv arch +1, giant +1, loons +1, witch.
King same, but they had queen lvl5, us th8.
As you can see:
Their defence were MUCH better.
Their heroes lvl higher esp queen.
They had 1 less th8.
Their troops much better in many ways - I can say 1 and 3 on par. 2,4,5,6 - they had better troops.
The only one reason why we would win this is that their clan was not active at all.
And they did not perform well enough having better troops and heroes.
Nothing aimed at you personally . All good leaders take the most stars possible at the end . I was just astonished that your clan would not three 14 in a 15 person war . My clan is also a 15 and we would hit 14 four times and get it before we move up the chain . So seeing bases above ten with free stars is pretty much unheard of and surprised me . My clan uses a pretty strict bottom up type approach and there is a variety of Attack styles so it's pretty darn rare for a base not to be gotten by try three .
just curious but does your clan ever score 40-42 stars ?
sometimes this approach means the upper guys get only one shot at a th9 for example but that's just the way it goes
oh oh and I was taking notes in your clan when someone started a war search and I got punted from the war data but my base case is that a base with worse defence is ONE base .. It only gets three starred once . ( and in your case you didn't get three starred ) an offensive advantage can mean two attacks for stars PLUS cc troop advantages ... So a top player with better troops is material across the board while single base defense discrepancies are simply relevant to that one base
- This is not the question about how good or bad is your or my clan. The topic is about something else - actually mismatch. We have 32 people and I had to go smaller war cause we were as I said at HARD mismatch fighting 25 vs 25 and 20 vs 20. I had to drop number of people down.My clan is also a 15
- Definitely yes. 2 times we were much better as clan, and I feel sorry for other clan, so if you go see my logs we beat one clan 59-28 (out of 60). Again its not about how good is clan...just curious but does your clan ever score 40-42 stars ?
Update: Now we have about fair match. They do have 1 more th9, and we do have 1 th7, but generally speaking its ok, at least no crazy defense/heroes.
PS: For me definition of mismatch is clear - it is when you search for clan war, find one and in 5 seconds you know if you loose or win.
Match is when results are unpredictable if we assume both clans are actively using all attacks.
i get where you are coming from but I know nothing in 5 seconds .. In 5 seconds all I can absorb is the th levels of the other team . Beyond that I need to see the profiles of about the top third to half of the clan to assess their ability to attack and look at their defences
so to me a mismatch is one where
After consideration of all the factors, a clan would be unable to win using reasonable skillful methods against the opponent assuming they also use reasonable skillful methods .
I have seen some examples cited that were mismatches. I just didn't and don't think yours qualified . The differences in two top players are largely irrelevant if reasonable skill each way results in a mutual two star.
oh and as an aside I mentioned my clan not to compare the two but because I thought it was relevant that I have warred a lot at that size with a clan of th10-6 people . We follow a simple method where it is a grave sin as a th7-8 to attack anything harder if there is a base with stars available lower . The first rule is get the stars!!!
- Cause you base your opinion on 5 seconds fast view.I just didn't and don't think yours qualified
- See my def above. Again, if they would be more active and use all attacks we would have no chance to win. We got the chance in this particular example, I know, and did not use it, and the chance was not active opponents. BUT. Again, they used only 2/3 of attacks and it was enough for them to win. As you seen we used all attacks.After consideration of all the factors, a clan would be unable to win using reasonable skillful methods against the opponent assuming they also use reasonable skillful methods .
- I know it. Unfortunately, apart from this topic, some members trend to attack either too low or too high unnecessary.The first rule is get the stars!!!
Its hard decision for me, due to the fact people are loyal and nice in general. But sometimes some are not doing what they supposed to do.
- Again, I accept its not mismatch fault at the RESULT, due to 2 main factors - their clan was not active and my classmates took too high numbers and failed when they supposed to take low for stars. Its separate issue.
I'm just curious.... If in 1 of 10 wars, almost every opponent has way harder defence buildings than your team (no matter TH levels), could you consider this a "mismatch"?
Posting Permissions
