Trophy system can't be right as explained by Supercell

[shog]

In my experience, going to visit another base does not generally show an up to date trophy count. Even though you saw it within minutes of the time that he attacked you, it may have been a couple hours out of date. On top of this, I have seen many cases where the clan list shows trophies different than in a visit, e.g. 1300 in clan list but when I visit them it says 1345.

The most likely answer is that his trophy count was lower than what you saw. It only takes a few good wins to change by a couple hundred of you are on a roll, especially if you sandbag your rating most of the time collecting resources which is a common practice.

If you go by this then you have to assume he was at 1800 trophies, dropped down a few hundred, attacked me and then when I checked his town I saw the 1800 number. Nothing is impossible but that would surely make the displays of all of our towns next to useless. You would never be able to gauge the level of your opponent.

[dahimi]

If you go by this then you have to assume he was at 1800 trophies, dropped down a few hundred, attacked me and then when I checked his town I saw the 1800 number. Nothing is impossible but that would surely make the displays of all of our towns next to useless. You would never be able to gauge the level of your opponent.

In another thread Rauta alluded to the fact that trophy values are cached. Meaning what you see is not necessarily up to date.

Also it's viewing a town that might result in a cached value.

When you attack someone, I think it's reasonable to assume you get an up to date value. At that time you get 30s to judge the difficulty of attacking the base and a listing of how many trophies you can win or lose.

[shog]

In another thread Rauta alluded to the fact that trophy values are cached. Meaning what you see is not necessarily up to date.

Also it's viewing a town that might result in a cached value.

When you attack someone, I think it's reasonable to assume you get an up to date value. At that time you get 30s to judge the difficulty of attacking the base and a listing of how many trophies you can win or lose.

So you can see real trophy numbers when attacking. Other than that, its just a guess? How hard would it be to give real time numbers in both instances. This does not make sense.

[Eric]

I would just like to say that sometimes there are glitches in games and we honestly have to deal with it. I remember one time when I had around 1900 trophies or something I was attacked by a guy who one starred me and got 36 trophies, which means he would have gotten 108 with a perfect victory which I know is wrong, I mean to say games glitch, get over it and move on, I was stuck at 1900 for ever but now I have 2200 and in bonbee canada so just move on from the sucky losses because complaining about it won't change a thing. This is directed towards everyone who complains about supercells trophy issues, but in a nice way haha.

[dahimi]

So you can see real trophy numbers when attacking. Other than that, its just a guess? How hard would it be to give real time numbers in both instances. This does not make sense.

Presumably they cache the results to reduce server load. I don't think it would be hard for them to give realtime numbers. I'd wager it's more of a question of performance (which may be quite considerable) than difficulty.

If I had to guess, it's to reduce the total number of database queries required so that the game will scale better with lots of users or to conserve bandwidth.

[shog]

I would just like to say that sometimes there are glitches in games and we honestly have to deal with it. I remember one time when I had around 1900 trophies or something I was attacked by a guy who one starred me and got 36 trophies, which means he would have gotten 108 with a perfect victory which I know is wrong, I mean to say games glitch, get over it and move on, I was stuck at 1900 for ever but now I have 2200 and in bonbee canada so just move on from the sucky losses because complaining about it won't change a thing. This is directed towards everyone who complains about supercells trophy issues, but in a nice way haha.

I think that is the reason for this discussion. Was it just a glitch or is it in fact a problem with the game mechanics themselves. I consider a glitch to be a small, minor problem. Something like the trophy system, which forms part of teh base of the game should be working properly.

[Eric]

I think that is the reason for this discussion. Was it just a glitch or is it in fact a problem with the game mechanics themselves. I consider a glitch to be a small, minor problem. Something like the trophy system, which forms part of teh base of the game should be working properly.

I guess you are right, in which case I would agree that there is a problem present, I also sometimes will randomly drop 20 trophies just from thin air, I hadn't attacked or gotten attacked, so there is another problem I will bring up. My old clan used to call them phantom trophies

[Rauta]

The actual problem is not with showing it real-time. This still would not help with situations where you you check it hours later, or days later. What we're working on now is to visualize the attackers trophies as they were before the attack, as that is the more relevant information than what the points are now.

[FireBlade2121]

I guess you are right, in which case I would agree that there is a problem present, I also sometimes will randomly drop 20 trophies just from thin air, I hadn't attacked or gotten attacked, so there is another problem I will bring up. My old clan used to call them phantom trophies

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[fette]

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