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    Trophy system can't be right as explained by Supercell

    My understanding of the trophy system, as explained by Supercell is that if you attack someone with more trophies than you then you will potentially be able to win more trophies. If you attack someone with fewer trophies you have the potential to win fewer trophies and to lose more if you lose the attack. We have all had our share of the win one/lose 39 options provided to us.

    However I don't think it works like this. I was recently attacked by someone who gained one star. I lost, and therefore he was awarded 16 trophies. For one star. Which means he had the potential to win 48 trophies with a perfect victory. Based on Supercell's explanation when I looked at his village I expected to see someone with far fewer trophies than me. I was very surprised to find out that my attacker was within about 25 trophies from me.

    Given what we think we know about the system how is it that he attacked me with pretty much the same number of trophies and was offered 48 for a perfect victory. Wouldn't 20 have been his maximum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shog View Post
    My understanding of the trophy system, as explained by Supercell is that if you attack someone with more trophies than you then you will potentially be able to win more trophies. If you attack someone with fewer trophies you have the potential to win fewer trophies and to lose more if you lose the attack. We have all had our share of the win one/lose 39 options provided to us.

    However I don't think it works like this. I was recently attacked by someone who gained one star. I lost, and therefore he was awarded 16 trophies. For one star. Which means he had the potential to win 48 trophies with a perfect victory. Based on Supercell's explanation when I looked at his village I expected to see someone with far fewer trophies than me. I was very surprised to find out that my attacker was within about 25 trophies from me.

    Given what we think we know about the system how is it that he attacked me with pretty much the same number of trophies and was offered 48 for a perfect victory. Wouldn't 20 have been his maximum?
    Are you certain their trophy count was close to yours when they attacked? Perhaps they gained a few hundred since.

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    I think that the number of trophies won/gained may be related only to the number of trophies that the attacker has. The victim's trophy count is used for the match-up, but only the attacker's are considered for the victory/defeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dahimi View Post
    Are you certain their trophy count was close to yours when they attacked? Perhaps they gained a few hundred since.
    I checked within minutes after the attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediapluck View Post
    I think that the number of trophies won/gained may be related only to the number of trophies that the attacker has. The victim's trophy count is used for the match-up, but only the attacker's are considered for the victory/defeat.
    No, as explained by supercell the attackers trophy level is compared to the target's trophy level. So both parties' trophy levels are used in the equation. The point is, two players with fairly even trophy levels should not result in an attack by one allowing the attacker to gain potentially 48 trophies, while losing, I am assuming single digit trophies.

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    It compares the trophies between two players.

    Where did you check his trophies from? Different lists update in different times, as they are cached. Still this sounds a bit weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauta View Post
    It compares the trophies between two players.

    Where did you check his trophies from? Different lists update in different times, as they are cached. Still this sounds a bit weird.
    I visited his town shortly after he attacked and I saw how many trophies he received for a one star. Like I said I expected to see someone with hundreds fewer, but he was within 25 or so of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauta View Post
    It compares the trophies between two players.
    Rauta does it also take defence levels in consideration? I used to have opponents in match making with good trophy rewards, however I just upgraded my base, and it looks like the amount of trophy rewards or lower now than before I started upgrading my base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mschopman View Post
    Rauta does it also take defence levels in consideration? I used to have opponents in match making with good trophy rewards, however I just upgraded my base, and it looks like the amount of trophy rewards or lower now than before I started upgrading my base.
    No. It doesn't.

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    In my experience, going to visit another base does not generally show an up to date trophy count. Even though you saw it within minutes of the time that he attacked you, it may have been a couple hours out of date. On top of this, I have seen many cases where the clan list shows trophies different than in a visit, e.g. 1300 in clan list but when I visit them it says 1345.

    The most likely answer is that his trophy count was lower than what you saw. It only takes a few good wins to change by a couple hundred of you are on a roll, especially if you sandbag your rating most of the time collecting resources which is a common practice.

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