[Poll] The Lightning Spell Problem Needs to be Addressed

[awesomness2016]

I understand that im just saying that this is a thing that happens very frequently to most players. I was the same so i pushed up to crystal 2 on my way to masters once you get to crystal there are no more lightning gods. But there are spartan armies that demolish your base very easily if you have low lv defences.

No...it happens frequently to most players that are hanging out in low leagues with a lot of DE. Almost invariably, these are players whose trophies are artificially well below where they should be, and who can easily solve their problem just as you did, and still get the loot they need for upgrades, just with slightly more expensive armies. This isn't the same as it happening frequently to most players though.

[Uzziel]

so awesomeness2016 i still havent heard your thoughts about a lightning rod placed at the top of a DE storage what do you think about it?

[WarrenJames]

It highly depends on the Dark Elixir (normal) Elixir 'exchange market' (aka cost/benift situation with raids). If there is easy zapping access, an abundance of normal Elixr, and Dark Elixir is in high in demand, people will be willing to Dark Elixir zap, period.

Supercell helped with this issue by giving a Dark Elixir Drill to TH7s (BTW THANK YOU!!), and a second at TH8 (DOUBLE THANK YOU!!), but I still did DE zaps because of others raiding nearly a day's worth of drill production. Why? I made enough Elixr to do it, plus it was the only (arguably) viable way for me to revenge attack TH9s that regularly hit me.

Mind you, I totally understand how getting zapped for 800-1,500 DE with no other physical attack with troops feels like a violation of the assumed spirit of the game. But until something better comes along, that's how the game plays.

Note: You do not solve the cause of the DE zapping by covering up the symptom of the actual act of zapping. Might as well try to punish people with exposed Town Hall bases while you are at it. If the first several times the 'simple zapping fix' didn't work, why would repeating it several dozen more times have a better chance? (Spoiler: it doesn't)

[rwelshjr]

It highly depends on the Dark Elixir (normal) Elixir 'exchange market' (aka cost/benift situation with raids). If there is easy zapping access, an abundance of normal Elixr, and Dark Elixir is in high in demand, people will be willing to Dark Elixir zap, period.

Supercell helped with this issue by giving a Dark Elixir Drill to TH7s (BTW THANK YOU!!), and a second at TH8 (DOUBLE THANK YOU!!), but I still did DE zaps because of others raiding nearly a day's worth of drill production. Why? I made enough Elixr to do it, plus it was the only (arguably) viable way for me to revenge attack TH9s that regularly hit me.

Mind you, I totally understand how getting zapped for 800-1,500 DE with no other physical attack with troops feels like a violation of the assumed spirit of the game. But until something better comes along, that's how the game plays.

Note: You do not solve the cause of the DE zapping by covering up the symptom of the actual act of zapping. Might as well try to punish people with exposed Town Hall bases while you are at it. If the first several times the 'simple zapping fix' didn't work, why would repeating it several dozen more times have a better chance? (Spoiler: it doesn't)

The bolded part is exactly why DE zapping, while annoying to the individual, is important to stay. It would be a far bigger problem in the game if you did not have some way to strike back at those TH9s (or any other player) while they still had the ability to strike you.

[WarrenJames]

The bolded part is exactly why DE zapping, while annoying to the individual, is important to stay. It would be a far bigger problem in the game if you did not have some way to strike back at those TH9s (or any other player) while they still had the ability to strike you.

I hate to sound like a broken record, but this does hit me as another issue caused by the bad gameplay feel with defence.

If it were more viable to attack same TH level villages, and defense wasn't so off putting to cause most people to use Shields as a main form of defence as extensively as they do now; revenge attacks from DE zapping would be more viable, and after a few days or a week of adjusting, DE zapping would drop drastically because of the counter attack would not make it worth it, and they could get more DE, with less Elixr cost by doing regular raids anyway.

But... Like that'll happen, so.. Carry on with the 'debate'

[awesomedude500]

Lightning is expensive and there are far cheaper ways to get to your hard earned Dark Elixir. Its not a "doggone problem," its a game

It's a big problem, you don't need to come here and say it's not a problem just because it doesn't happen to you. Think a little bit, please.

[rwelshjr]

I hate to sound like a broken record, but this does hit me as another issue caused by the bad gameplay feel with defence.

If it were more viable to attack same TH level villages, and defense wasn't so off putting to cause most people to use Shields as a main form of defence as extensively as they do now; revenge attacks from DE zapping would be more viable, and after a few days or a week of adjusting, DE zapping would drop drastically because of the counter attack would not make it worth it, and they could get more DE, with less Elixr cost by doing regular raids anyway.

But... Like that'll happen, so.. Carry on with the 'debate'

I still think DE zapping is fine as it is and everyone should shut up and find a real problem to worry about. (IMHO)

But if I am to be honest I have to admit I don't have a counterargument to the bolded part. I think it is a true statement.

[awesomedude500]

I also have reason to believe that all the people who voted this poll down are zappers.

[iceageg]

It's a big problem, you don't need to come here and say it's not a problem just because it doesn't happen to you. Think a little bit, please.

I also have reason to believe that all the people who voted this poll down are zappers.

It does happen to me. Fairly often. Because I hang out lower than my skill most of the time. I understand the risks and accept them. I should be getting zapped.

I personally have not zapped anybody since TH7 on any of my accounts. They zap me, sometimes I steamroll them, sometimes it was a revenge for me steamrolling them first. I don't care because they only took a small portion of what I could have lost if I was pushing trophies again. Win for me and a wasteful win for them.

[rwelshjr]

I also have reason to believe that all the people who voted this poll down are zappers.

That's more of an angry retort than any sort of thoughtful statement. And sorry, you are not correct. I am not a zapper, I am a guy that gets zapped. But I understand why its for the good for the game that I have to just live with being zapped. And that makes me understand that it is not a problem. it is a good thing.

I think your struggle to understand is because you are thinking in terms of you own personal desires and how things affect you personally rather than looking at the game as a whole and what's good for maintaining an active balance.