I've never seen something like this before - Is this the true meaning of TH 8.5?

[TheConfuzed1]

How come this is abusing? It's called 'strategy'!

Exactly. There is no chėating here of any kind. It's simply another way to play the game.

[Belvik]

You have to remember that .5 bases really don't carry a ton of value until they get their heroes and troops upgraded. Sure a Th8.5 will rank lower that the bases it can 3 star but where does the value really start to show? Take this guy for example, sure he can 3 star bases much higher than him, but those bases are going to be 3 stared in war whether he does it or not. Now when he gets his heroes up to the high teens low 20s and can start taking down max TH9 that his clanmates can't and starts to show that value of being a solid attacker(if he even is and thats a whole different issue) then he will have true value to his clan. Until then he will be 3 starring bases that would have been anyway. hope that makes sense.

I understand how it works. However people want to justify manipulating the system to their advantage is fine. I'm not saying it's wrong, but the people that do it are doing it for a very specific purpose. Don't try and and act like it's anything other than trying to get a more favorable war match-up, that is the sole purpose of the .5 bases.

[antimatter]

This is no more an abuse of the system than what top clans do in the season tournament where they shuffle players around to secure the top part.

This is is no more an abuse of a system than a clan system shuffling players around to have their highest members rank highest amongst clans when pushing.

Theyre re working well within the system with mechanics that exist for everyone.

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[BlueBoss]

This is a defenseless account. I have a couple like it too.

[Wildstang0302]

Wow. So much weirdness there.

He's got max storages presumably so he can fill them using gems. But no walls so why even build a single collector or gold mine? And how does that base help at all on defense in a clan war?

Hes probably got max th9 troops which req elixir, so no need to gem. Can only lose 350k ish in storages and collectors are always useful. I have one not this drastic at th8 now

[FisherPrice]

meh, still abusing the system. you cant deny that. th 8 defense with th 9 offense?? is that fair?

You're right.

When a person gets raided the loot penalty should be determined by their defenses, not their town hall. From now on if a TH9 doesn't have xbows, a TH10 should still have a 50% loot penalty against them.

It's only fair.

[FisherPrice]

I understand how it works. However people want to justify manipulating the system to their advantage is fine. I'm not saying it's wrong, but the people that do it are doing it for a very specific purpose. Don't try and and act like it's anything other than trying to get a more favorable war match-up, that is the sole purpose of the .5 bases.

And the sole purpose of upgrading your defenses as quickly as you can is to protect your loot/trophies in raids. The only reason to max those defenses ASAP is to get a more favorable raid match-up. Just admit to that already, would you? It's okay if you abuse the system, just admit it.

[Belvik]

And the sole purpose of upgrading your defenses as quickly as you can is to protect your loot/trophies in raids. The only reason to max those defenses ASAP is to get a more favorable raid match-up. Just admit to that already, would you? It's okay if you abuse the system, just admit it.

I see what you're trying to accomplish here, but it's not the same. Sure, my defenses will help protect my loot, but they play no part in the matchmaking algorithm in normal loot/trophy raids. Only trophies (and TH level after update) matter for that matchmaking, past that it's pure luck. Manipulating my trophy count would be more helpful in getting favorable match ups than upgrading defenses.

Defenses are the main factor in determining war match ups. Purposely neglecting defenses and improving offense is done specifically to try and manipulate the system for a better match up in war. If that's how you want to play the game it's fine, but don't get upset about it when others notice that's what you're doing.

And yes I abuse the system. I've probably only been legitimately attacked 15-20 times in the past year because I corner my TH for free shields.

[222aragorn]

We got a "defenseless" base once... Our bottom guy tried attacking it. The max teslas came as a nasty surprise.

[FisherPrice]

I see what you're trying to accomplish here, but it's not the same. Sure, my defenses will help protect my loot, but they play no part in the matchmaking algorithm in normal loot/trophy raids

They play no part yet you benefit greatly from them. Sounds unfair to me.

Only trophies (and TH level after update) matter for that matchmaking, past that it's pure luck. Manipulating my trophy count would be more helpful in getting favorable match ups than upgrading defenses.

Your trophy count has nothing to do with loot penalty. Loot penalty is designed to keep people from pillaging severely under powered defenses/bases. People who abuse this by pushing defenses up ASAP are benefiting too much, they should implement a loot penalty based on defenses built.

Defenses are the main factor in determining war match ups. Purposely neglecting defenses and improving offense is done specifically to try and manipulate the system for a better match up in war. If that's how you want to play the game it's fine, but don't get upset about it when others notice that's what you're doing.

And yes I abuse the system. I've probably only been legitimately attacked 15-20 times in the past year because I corner my TH for free shields.

And building defenses ASAP is purposely manipulating the fact that loot penalty is based on TH and not defenses.





It's two sides to the same coin and how you upgrade/progress determines where you have more or less advantage .