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Thread: New Hero: Inferno Prince

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theking8133 View Post
    I'm sorry, but no. This wouldn't balance anything. I do not see a single combination of troops that could defend against this once It gets leveled up a bit. It would just NEVER work without a serious Update adding in stronger troops and defenses to combat it.
    This is why you actually have to look at the stats because otherwise your just reading the word "inferno" and assuming it's op. 53 seconds is how long it's ricochet attack would take to destroy by itself a max th9 cannon. Sure it's initial attack becomes extremely powerful but it takes time to get there. It's range is less than an inferno tower, archer tower, cannon. It's benefit comes in its ricochet attack that can hit multiple targets but like I said for a building that has 800 hp and the ricochet at 15 dps that's almost a minute it would take to destroy it. Compare that with a lvl 1 aq or bk and a queen can take out the same archer tower in 7 seconds. I honestly just don't see your reasoning for thinking its "overpowered."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theking8133 View Post
    I'm sorry, but no. This wouldn't balance anything. I do not see a single combination of troops that could defend against this once It gets leveled up a bit. It would just NEVER work without a serious Update adding in stronger troops and defenses to combat it.
    And I already said I don't see it's dps increasing very much when you level it up. It's hp would increase a bit more similar to other heroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theking8133 View Post
    I'm sorry, but no. This wouldn't balance anything. I do not see a single combination of troops that could defend against this once It gets leveled up a bit. It would just NEVER work without a serious Update adding in stronger troops and defenses to combat it.
    If you could provide some kind of issue you have with its stats then I might be able to dispel them or fix them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maduro25 View Post
    This is why you actually have to look at the stats because otherwise your just reading the word "inferno" and assuming it's op. 53 seconds is how long it's ricochet attack would take to destroy by itself a max th9 cannon. Sure it's initial attack becomes extremely powerful but it takes time to get there. It's range is less than an inferno tower, archer tower, cannon. It's benefit comes in its ricochet attack that can hit multiple targets but like I said for a building that has 800 hp and the ricochet at 15 dps that's almost a minute it would take to destroy it. Compare that with a lvl 1 aq or bk and a queen can take out the same archer tower in 7 seconds. I honestly just don't see your reasoning for thinking its "overpowered."
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    And I already said I don't see it's dps increasing very much when you level it up. It's hp would increase a bit more similar to other heroes.
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    If you could provide some kind of issue you have with its stats then I might be able to dispel them or fix them.
    Seriously, 3 posts to reply to 1 comment... And yes, its 53 seconds to beat a th9 cannon, but you could beat 3 at that time, with the ricochet. Also, what about attacking troops. On defense your base would be practically impossible to lose, or win, depending on your side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theking8133 View Post
    Seriously, 3 posts to reply to 1 comment... And yes, its 53 seconds to beat a th9 cannon, but you could beat 3 at that time, with the ricochet. Also, what about attacking troops. On defense your base would be practically impossible to lose, or win, depending on your side.
    3 in 53 seconds is 53/3= 17 seconds roughly. That's not overpowered by any stretch of the imagination considering the archer queen can take one down in less than half that time at lvl 1. And yes it would help with cc troops but considering with the skeleton traps and cc troops that's 40+ troops an attacker has to kill off on top of taking out the defenses...
    I understand you might be hesitant for a new hero but you have to take into consideration SC coming out with other updates for the future that increase attack power for some def, more defenses, more walls, etc. a new hero is inevitable. And this hero as it stands while different certainly isn't so overpowering that max th9's and 10's would crumble easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maduro25 View Post
    3 in 53 seconds is 53/3= 17 seconds roughly. That's not overpowered by any stretch of the imagination considering the archer queen can take one down in less than half that time at lvl 1. And yes it would help with cc troops but considering with the skeleton traps and cc troops that's 40+ troops an attacker has to kill off on top of taking out the defenses...
    I understand you might be hesitant for a new hero but you have to take into consideration SC coming out with other updates for the future that increase attack power for some def, more defenses, more walls, etc. a new hero is inevitable. And this hero as it stands while different certainly isn't so overpowering that max th9's and 10's would crumble easily.
    First off, if an archer queen can take out a building in half the time it takes for Inferno Prince to kill 3, then an archer queen would still take 1.5 times the amount of time to beat the 3 buildings as the Inferno Prince would.

    Second, when you say that troops have to deal with traps, and Clan Castle troops, along with the defenses, your saying that it is hard enough to beat a base. So how does that make any sense with my point on how this would make raiding a base with this IMPOSSIBLE?

    And finally, I am not hesitant for a new hero. I want a new one. I just don't want one which is, to use your own words, so overpowering that max th9's and 10's would crumble easily, or a hero that would prevent even the best army combinations from getting a 1 star, as I think this hero would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theking8133 View Post
    First off, if an archer queen can take out a building in half the time it takes for Inferno Prince to kill 3, then an archer queen would still take 1.5 times the amount of time to beat the 3 buildings as the Inferno Prince would.

    Second, when you say that troops have to deal with traps, and Clan Castle troops, along with the defenses, your saying that it is hard enough to beat a base. So how does that make any sense with my point on how this would make raiding a base with this IMPOSSIBLE?

    And finally, I am not hesitant for a new hero. I want a new one. I just don't want one which is, to use your own words, so overpowering that max th9's and 10's would crumble easily, or a hero that would prevent even the best army combinations from getting a 1 star, as I think this hero would do.
    Idk if I did my math on that right but what I meant was a lvl 1 queen takes out one max th9 archer tower in roughly 9 seconds. That means an archer queen can kill 6 archer towers roughly to the inferno princes 3 in the same amount of time. 53/3 is roughly 17 so it takes 17 seconds for him to the AQ's 9 seconds. Like I said his benefit is he does splash damage kinda not that he's really powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maduro25 View Post
    Idk if I did my math on that right but what I meant was a lvl 1 queen takes out one max th9 archer tower in roughly 9 seconds. That means an archer queen can kill 6 archer towers roughly to the inferno princes 3 in the same amount of time. 53/3 is roughly 17 so it takes 17 seconds for him to the AQ's 9 seconds. Like I said his benefit is he does splash damage kinda not that he's really powerful.
    That's great, about the Archer queen and archer towers, but those stats for the Inferno Prince was on a cannon, so those stats aren't exactly comparable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theking8133 View Post
    That's great, about the Archer queen and archer towers, but those stats for the Inferno Prince was on a cannon, so those stats aren't exactly comparable...
    Max cannon for th9 actually has higher hp so it would take longer even longer for a cannon.. 805 hp for max th9 archer tower and 970 hp for a max th9 cannon. 53 seconds for archer tower, 63 seconds for cannon. Technically the ricochet attack has the lowest dps in the game of all units. Only the initial attack has the strongest and that still takes time to work its way up to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maduro25 View Post
    How so? Low hp, shorter range, not as powerful as the inferno tower and it has no favorite target. I feel as though I made it pretty balanced if you ask me
    Basically a hard hitting but less hp than the queen........the queen puts in work as it is.

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