Bring back upgrading to Level 8 walls with Elixir and Gold

[Xitra]

I didn't bring up level 10 walls. The 882,978,000 figure is based on level 9 walls only. Taking elixir from level 10 walls would put it over a billion.

That number isn't even remotely close. Level 9 walls alone only cost 250M, so I have no idea where you pulled that 882M number from, unless you're including level 10 walls. If you're going to use a really big number to try to make a point, use the right number.

[Ectar]

How so? when us th8s have all this elixir lying around, it shouldnt be fair that all you th9s get to steal it from us and overpower us. we need more things to spend elixir on and walls are one of them

um loot cap?

[WarrenJames]

You mean the lootable percentage, which has a loot cap upper limit of how much you can take from storage, which also has a loot penalty based on Town Hall level?

Honestly, if I were to be raided totaly by anyone, would rather it be someone that is two or more Town Hall levels than me, since someone that is two levels more only can get half that is normally available to one at my level or lower. If this long coming TH11 comes, and happens to raid me now, they'd only have access to a quarter of what is normally avalible.

[Reaper1138]

Except it really is, for those of us who have been on this forum for more than two days, let alone 4 months. This has been requested literally once a day on average for the last 4+ months. For every day that it wasn't requested (and believe me, there weren't very many), there were days where it was requested 2-3 or more times. Sometimes the same request was on the first page of this subforum (multiple times on the first page), and someone still went through the trouble of creating a forum account just to create a new request to complain about level 8 walls.

There are three main reasons this is requested:

1. The OP is a TH8 with tons of excess elixir, which is going to waste. They are done with their elixir upgrades, yet they're not even halfway through upgrading their defenses and walls.
2. The OP is a TH8, and they think walls cost too much. Having walls available with elixir would help make them cheaper (effectively).
3. The OP is a TH7 or TH8 (or lower sometimes), and wants Supercell to "bring back" the level 8 (or 7) elixir walls, because it's not fair that people could do them several months ago.

Regarding point #1: I feel bad for these people, I really do. Heck, I'm an early-mid TH8 now, so I'll be running out elixir upgrades eventually. (I've purposely left my barracks at level 9 and dark barracks at level 3, for war matching, so I'll have 12.5M in elixir upgrades when I decide to unlock GoWiPe, plus the pekka research cost. I also spend between 1M and 1.5M elixir per war, for two dragoon armies, plus war donations.)

Eventually, most TH8's realize they have a long grind ahead of them, where they can't possibly spend elixir faster than they can earn it (unless they farm slowly and spend big in war, like me), and they realize that it's unfair that TH9's can dump elixir into their walls. It really is. I'm sick of TH9's acting like there's no problem at all, that they can dump 1M elixir into walls, but it's somehow this game-shattering problem if TH8's can dump their elixir into walls. Quite frankly, I firmly believe that level 9 walls should cost gold only, or the elixir price needs to be raised to 2M.


Anyway, regarding types 2 and 3, those OP's are just whiners, spamming the forum. They very rarely even check if this has been requested before. Elixir walls were taken away over 4 months ago. Do they honestly believe that this has never been requested before? Not even once? Let alone more than 100 times???? Seriously????

Also, the OP of this thread sounds like #3 and #2. Double

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Actually no, im neither #3 or #2. If you read my bio or even looked at my profile, I have been playing for a year and a half. I dont have tons of excess elixir either. I know how the game works. Call me a complainer or a whiner, I could really care less. I personally hate using gold, and I didnt like how they came out with the Elixir thing and then got rid of it for level 8 walls down.

You on the other hand dont mind it. if you dont mind it then why did you come on here spamming how there are hundreds of others who said the same thing I did? Im only a day new which you wouldve knew that had you took the time to look at my profile and saw I just started. I have the experience of this game.

I know a lot about the game. It gets to a certain point to where it gets boring because you want to finish maxing your TH so you can move on and upgrade more, but with walls holding me back because of the gold, Id really like the elixir upgrade back.

About the hundreds of threads about this topic, I dont sit for an hour looking through every page to find Someone talking about the same topic I made on my thread. Queit honestly, I dont need you telling me what I can and cant post. "But you are spamming". Do you know how many people play this game? Im simply giving my opinion about why lvl 8 walls should be placed in future updates. Call me whatever you want, I simply know what im doing, I know how to upgrade my base, and i know what im talking about.

[DaScavenger]

I do get where you're coming from, Level 8 Walls with Elixir would be great, but the loot during the time this was active was really poor, and I couldn't even farm the elixir to upgrade the walls with, because so many people were also upgrading their walls with elixir,

[badfish1979]

That number isn't even remotely close. Level 9 walls alone only cost 250M, so I have no idea where you pulled that 882M number from, unless you're including level 10 walls. If you're going to use a really big number to try to make a point, use the right number.

My mistake, it includes level 10. However, the difference would still be more than twice that of TH8.

[Kowalski711]

I am past the need of this but I can understand why so many people want it. I support the idea but understand many do not. TH8 has more elixir than they know what to do with. Its the perfect war townhall with all that extra sitting around.

Agreed. I already FARMED for my pekkas Lvl 3 (ima mid th 8). Some may say I'm crazy becuase later on at max 8 I won't need to farm the 6 mil. Well I farmed it so that once i hit max - mass drags and go wipe ftw. Basically, if you have SOOO much elixer, make some pricy armies, all Pekkas, all drags, etc

[Xitra]

My mistake, it includes level 10. However, the difference would still be more than twice that of TH8.

Okay, cleared that up. Still, that's how it is at EVERY town hall level. The gold costs more than double at every TH level. In fact, with the exception of TH6, the gold costs more than TRIPLE at every TH level, relative to the level before. Just the way the game is.

But the jump from TH8 to TH9 is unique. You can get walls with elixir. Your "gold only" costs actually DROP at TH9.

The "gold only" costs at TH8 are 238,661,550, while they drop to 223,426,550 at TH9. Indeed, when you look at the excess "gold only" costs versus "elixir only" costs, the difference is even more substantial.

The "gold only" costs at TH8 exceed the "elixir only" costs by 171,597,000. At TH9, the difference is only 132,978,000.

The difference, of course, is that TH9 throws a billion in resource costs on top of this, which kind of washes all comparisons away. The sheer magnitude of 1 billion resource is so large, that talking about "elixir only" costs or "gold only" costs is irrelevant. Who cares how much it costs to upgrade all 4 army camps, or both dark barracks (twice each!), or the lab, or the spell factory, or all the troops? Who cares how much it costs to buy and upgrade both X-Bows, and the Archer Towers and Cannons and Mortars and Seeking Air Mines and... Sure, it's a long list, but really, all those costs just pale in comparison to the cost of the walls.

So really, what ends up happening is people throw out this really big number. "1 billion OMG!!!" and then they shut down any further rational discussion.

But that 1 billion comes in two parts: the level 9 upgrade (at 1M a pop) and the level 10 upgrade (at 3M a pop).

Rationally, the level 9 upgrade gives you a wall that's twice as good as the previous upgrade, for the same price. With 1M gold and 1M elixir, a TH9 can buy two level 9 walls, each granting 1000 extra hit points. A TH8 with the same resources (which are harder to hold due to larger loot rate) can buy 2 level 8 walls, each granting 500 extra hit points.

Anyway you slice it, the level 9 upgrade is bass ackwards.

But wait, ONE BILLION GOLD! Okay, conversation over.

See how lame that is?

[webbie]

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Actually no, im neither #3 or #2. If you read my bio or even looked at my profile, I have been playing for a year and a half. I dont have tons of excess elixir either. I know how the game works. Call me a complainer or a whiner, I could really care less. I personally hate using gold, and I didnt like how they came out with the Elixir thing and then got rid of it for level 8 walls down.

You on the other hand dont mind it. if you dont mind it then why did you come on here spamming how there are hundreds of others who said the same thing I did? Im only a day new which you wouldve knew that had you took the time to look at my profile and saw I just started. I have the experience of this game.

I know a lot about the game. It gets to a certain point to where it gets boring because you want to finish maxing your TH so you can move on and upgrade more, but with walls holding me back because of the gold, Id really like the elixir upgrade back.

About the hundreds of threads about this topic, I dont sit for an hour looking through every page to find Someone talking about the same topic I made on my thread. Queit honestly, I dont need you telling me what I can and cant post. "But you are spamming". Do you know how many people play this game? Im simply giving my opinion about why lvl 8 walls should be placed in future updates. Call me whatever you want, I simply know what im doing, I know how to upgrade my base, and i know what im talking about.

Actually you are th8 (*3 accounts) based on your profile.

The problem was that with no elixir flowing up to th9/th10 the game totally dried up out there. People (th9/10) weren't donating troops because they cost too much, people stopped going to war since they couldn't fund their armies. The thing with this game is that if someone doesn't have enough gold their village doesn't grow as fast, if someone doesn't have enough elixir then they can't play. It was difficult for th9/10 to find raids for elixir that were big enough to fund the armies they attacked with much less fund all the 6M+ upgrades they need to make.

I was a th8 and was fortunate enough to take advantage of elixir for walls and am currently doing the same with lego walls but if it were up to me either they would make it start at lava walls (3M per) so that more elixir flows up to the th10s with the very expensive upgrades.

You tell people not to come to your thread and complain but the thing is we have all seen this thread a bunch of times and it is a fact that loot dried up when this was implemented so its not going to be brought back and it shouldn't be.

[spartanMook117]

I've been playing for about 6 months. I thought always u could upgrade them with elixir at level 8, and I thought well that's awesome. I think that's REALLY stupid that they changes that.