Bring back upgrading to Level 8 walls with Elixir and Gold

[WarrenJames]

There was mention of no ranting, but many people are ranting in the form of beating up the OP with already stated info.

Didn't know people were still this sensitive about this issue. This has been a lot of venting of annoyances.

[Drackos]

How so? when us th8s have all this elixir lying around, it shouldnt be fair that all you th9s get to steal it from us and overpower us. we need more things to spend elixir on and walls are one of them

How so? You bully townhall 7's as an 8 so it's just the same as the 8's doing it as well as the 9's and the 10's doing it to townhall 9's

The idea is a townhall 8 had more loot available; so a townhall 9 takes some. And a 7 takes some. Okay so now you have loot going up and down the lader. A townhall 9 raids that 8 and look; your loot just traveled. The tonwhall 7? Another 7 or even a 6 and likely an 8 raided them and it's an endless cycle. If all the loot was at townhall 9 and townhall 7's. Well you'll have townhall 9's getting hurt by he penalty and then townhall 10's would have issues since no 9's have loot.

Its a system. It's working. Yes there is a lot of elixer to spend. Sure more upgrades would be cool; but the idea of walls isn't the answer as you can dump all that elixer in walls and no one would ever have any. Townahll 9 has very expensive walls so it's not as common for people to drain their stuff into walls as it was at 8.

[awesomness2016]

I feel like it's always the same people, and a few tend to miss the main issue...that this was tried, it didn't work and HERE'S WHY:

Upgrading walls to level 8 with e meant that a rather substantial group of players was constantly sitting on between 100k-700k or so for long stretches of the game...i.e. not enough to make their bases worth attacking, and causing a lot of players who did so to lose elixir.

Upgrading walls to level 9 with e though means that not as many players can spend e on walls, and the players that can are still holding enough that they are worth raiding a good portion of the time.


So there's an imbalance at TH8. SO WHAT? And if you changed level 9 to gold only, you'd just be complaining about the same thing you're complaining about now, only it would be more than twice as bad when you're trying to farm level 9 walls with gold only.

There have been some viable solutions provided such as making e walls at th8 cost more, or only letting players to spend e when they have a certain amount in reserve, but I don't see these happening mainly because they add an necessary layer of complexity.

[Drackos]

There was mention of no ranting, but many people are ranting in the form of beating up the OP with already stated info.

Didn't know people were still this sensitive about this issue. This has been a lot of venting of annoyances.

Oops. Guess that's me with my 2 replys so far

[QueenBeeq]

I am past the need of this but I can understand why so many people want it. I support the idea but understand many do not. TH8 has more elixir than they know what to do with. Its the perfect war townhall with all that extra sitting around.

[Ghoerdt3]

I feel like it's always the same people, and a few tend to miss the main issue...that this was tried, it didn't work and HERE'S WHY:

Upgrading walls to level 8 with e meant that a rather substantial group of players was constantly sitting on between 100k-700k or so for long stretches of the game...i.e. not enough to make their bases worth attacking, and causing a lot of players who did so to lose elixir.

Upgrading walls to level 9 with e though means that not as many players can spend e on walls, and the players that can are holding enough that they are worth raiding a good portion of the time.


So there's an imbalance at TH8. SO WHAT? And if you changed level 9 to gold only, you'd just be complaining about the same thing you're complaining about now, only it would be more than twice as bad when you're trying to farm level 9 walls with gold only.

K thanks for clarification. I see both sides now, I guess its up to supercell. Theyre probably gonna leave it as is thought

[badfish1979]

How so? when us th8s have all this elixir lying around, it shouldnt be fair that all you th9s get to steal it from us and overpower us. we need more things to spend elixir on and walls are one of them

This is how the game works. At least you're protected from TH10s because they have a 50% loot penalty against you.

TH8s should have no problem whatsoever getting tons of loot (and the fact that you're sitting on full elixir storages is further proof of this). Most of the loot that you're stealing was originally generated by mines and pumps, and you have the same level mines and pumps as both TH9 and TH10. The difference is that your upgrades are extremely cheap compared to TH9 and TH10, you don't have a loot penalty against TH8s, TH9s, and TH10s, and only a 10% penalty against TH7s. Supercell even gave you an extra DE drill in December. You have it very good as far as resources are concerned.

Yet you're complaining about having too much loot. This is very different from a few months ago when an overwhelming number of higher town halls were complaining about too little loot.

And by the way, if you need more things to spend elixir on, upgrade to TH9. No one is forcing you to stay at TH8 with all your elixir upgrades maxed.

[iceageg]

I dont understand, someone please explain why lix4walls is bad for the "economy"?

Others beat me to it. In short, when TH8 could dump elixir into walls there was INSTANTLY no elixir available to raid for as TH9 and TH10. The game effectively ended for anybody above TH8 for those four months. Many players quit. I stopped playing but continued to participate in the forums hoping it would change. It sort of has.

[Ghoerdt3]

Others beat me to it. In short, when TH8 could dump elixir into walls there was INSTANTLY no elixir available to raid for as TH9 and TH10. The game effectively ended for anybody above TH8 for those four months. Many players quit. I stopped playing but continued to participate in the forums hoping it would change. It sort of has.

Ohhh ok i get it now thx for clarifying

[SirVargan]

Others beat me to it. In short, when TH8 could dump elixir into walls there was INSTANTLY no elixir available to raid for as TH9 and TH10. The game effectively ended for anybody above TH8 for those four months. Many players quit. I stopped playing but continued to participate in the forums hoping it would change. It sort of has.

I wouldn't go as far as saying it ended, just got really, really bad


All in all, this idea is very self serving. Everytime I see it, I roll my eyes because of the selfishness of some of these OPs. Just because you have a problem farming gold doesnt mean that you should change the game for the worse for others. Your elixir filled bases are nice for others, don't be so mean

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