Upgrade wall level 8 with elixir

[Ectar]

A near maxed th8 has no use for elixer. Storages are almost always full. I am in support for this, but I think that there should be some kind of limit on it. Maybe 2 million elixer in storages to upgrade 1 wall for 500 000?

oh god no, seriously use your elixir to attack, that's all you have to do, use good troops, get loads of gold, if you run out of elixir then your problem is solved

if you don't attack then the elixir is just going to sit there, i would prefer than as i can take it from you, but why use it on the walls seriously

i have never been in a situation where i ever have enough elixir, the world where you live must be a wonderful place where unicorns fart rainbows

[Xitra]

oh god no, seriously use your elixir to attack, that's all you have to do, use good troops, get loads of gold, if you run out of elixir then your problem is solved

if you don't attack then the elixir is just going to sit there, i would prefer than as i can take it from you, but why use it on the walls seriously

i have never been in a situation where i ever have enough elixir, the world where you live must be a wonderful place where unicorns fart rainbows

A) Unicorns don't fart rainbows. That's just ridiculous. They puke rainbows. I saw it on a greeting card at Target, so it must be true. (Hmm, now that I think about it, maybe they fart rainbows too...)

B) How expensive of an army are you using, that you managed to never have excess elixir at TH8?

The facts about TH8:
Total gold costs: 238,661,550
Total elixir costs: 67,064,550

So let's say that you farm 2M gold per day. Let's also assume that the 504k gold per day, which your mines make, will cover your Next fees, trap rearming, and whatever gold you lose (on average) to raids.

So, approximately 240M gold, at 2M per day, means 120 days. I picked this on purpose, because the lab research alone takes 147 days, according to the clash wiki. I'll assume that you skip a few troops that you don't use. If you plan to do all the research, you can farm even slower than this. Indeed, if you can manage to not lose much gold to raids, or have to rearm traps, then the 504k gold production can reduce your farming requirements to less than 1.5M per day on average, to get you through the 147 days.

Anyway, assuming 2M gold farmed per day, and a similar amount of elixir taken as well. I will not assume that someone is actively trying to leave elixir in the targets they hit. (I'll do it from time to time on collector raids, but my GG and EE are still very close.)

So you're farming 2M gold per day, and you'll need to spend about 600k elixir per day on average, on upgrades (research, DE drill and storage, barracks and dark barracks upgrades, etc.). A significant amount of that 600k can come from your elixir pumps.

Which means that you'll be spending more than 1.5M elixir per day, to farm 2M gold per day? Seriously, what kind of armies are you building? I've never had armies cost that much, for so little in return, except when I was running dragon-balloon armies to farm DE. Even an army of giants, healers, wizards, wall breakers, and a pekka or two, should be able to beat that ratio of gold to elixir.

If someone manages to max TH8 and NOT have excess elixir at some point, they're doing it wrong. Unless they only have time for 3 raids per day, and they don't mind building all-dragon or massive GiWiPe armies every time they log off, to come back for single raids.

[awesomness2016]

I made a painting of a war on unicorns and youre both wrong. Unicorns don't fart and their puke varies depending on their diet. They do however bleed rainbows.

[CaptainSport]

IF you REALLY have no use for it(in which case I don't understand) put it outside your walls. That way people will just take your elixir and leave, assuming you, for some reason, always have low gold.

[Xitra]

IF you REALLY have no use for it(in which case I don't understand) put it outside your walls. That way people will just take your elixir and leave, assuming you, for some reason, always have low gold.

Well, there's always a use for it, unless you don't raid at all. But the amount you need is negligible, assuming you make enough per raid (on average) to pay for your army. My TH7 is almost maxed, so I have one elixir storage outside. Only one, so I don't bleed off elixir too fast, because then I wouldn't be able to fund my war armies (dragons and spells add up, even at TH7).

But yeah, I see near-maxed TH8's while I'm raiding, which have 75% or more skull walls, all buildings maxed, overflowing elixir storages (to the point that their elixir pumps are also full). They're offering 400k or more elixir, and yet they spread all three elixir storages, deep enough inside the base to require breaking two walls, but far enough apart that you'd have to destroy 70% of the base to get all three. You couldn't just come in from one direction and get them. AD's set behind the elixir storages, so dragon raids from TH7's stand little chance if they brought 3x lightning (which I usually do when farming with dragons). I look at their bases, and I'm just like, why? You're only -at 1500 trophies, it's not like you need to maintain trophies! And you're just asking for a TH9 to come in and steamroll your base, because that TH9 would love to get at 360k or more elixir after the loot penalty. You obviously don't need the stuff, so why protect it????



But whatever, people play the way they want to play. I can't wait until I'm done with my elixir upgrades at TH8, so I can put 1 or 2 elixir storages outside, and make more room for the important things.

[MrPep]

Because the lower the wall level that is allowed to be upgraded with both elixir and gold, the greater the effect it has on the economy. And if it's not going to be removed entirely, there has to be a cutoff point. Well, level 8 was the cutoff point.

And as a TH10 that experienced the state of the economy while elixir was allowed to be used on low-level walls, I can tell you firsthand that the removal of elixir for level 7 and 8 has had a very positive effect.

So I stand behind the statement:

Elixir for level 7 and 8 walls ruined the economy.

I agree that it ruined the economy and will do so again if implemented so I am not in favor of it. So why not improve the economy even further and remove elixir wall upgrades completely? This would also stop(maybe just lessen) TH8s and below from asking for elixir walls as they wouldn't feel shafted because TH9s and TH10s can do it.

I personally think these threads won't stop coming until they remove the elixir wall upgrades completely or allow it after reaching the cap.

[akshay180496]

As a th8 i m farming rss. And i get lix, de and gold. But i dont have use for one of the rss i.e. lix.
What kind of balancing it is. And putting lix storages outside is not a solution. Why other th lvls have use of every rss equally while we th8 are just donating lix to th9s. I m not saying lix for lvl8 walls is also a good solution, but it needs some balancing. Why th8 have use of only gold and de. Looks quite unfair.....and unbalance economy for th8

[Galath]

I've been TH8 for almost 3 weeks and I have 62 skull walls and rest purple. No need for elixir walls at TH8.

[akshay180496]

I think its because the th8 walls take very little time compared to later, walls at th8 cost 112 million approx where as there are 1 billion worth of walls to be done at th9, i think considering the th9 has to spend almost ten time as much resources its more than fair that elixir can be used for those upgrades.

I get that point. What i m saying is rss need and usage of th8 is unbalanced. Lvl8 wall with lix will unbalance the game for th9s and 10s.
But some sort of balancing needs to be done for th8s, cuz its already unbalanced for th8.
As a th8, while raiding, i see other th8s with lix overflowing. But other ths dont have such issue.

[akshay180496]

Well i was lucky they changed spell cost from gold to elixir when i was th8 so i was happy just to have that. Either way dont worry about it to much soon you will be th9 and have plenty use for the purple stuff.

I m thinking of doing only few skulls and leaving the rest for th9, thus not wasting lix in the process... it seems the only way.