View Poll Results: DO YOU THINK WALL LVL 8 MUST BE UPGRADED BOTH WITH GOLD AND ELIXIR?

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  • Yes, if that is approved to be on next update.

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Thread: Upgrade wall level 8 with elixir

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    Upgrade wall level 8 with elixir

    Few updates before, there was allowed to upgrade level 7 walls and upper with elixir(if I wasn't wrong). Then the next/few updates later(i don't quite sure when it happened) walls level 7 and 8 back to gold, or upgrading them now just with golds.

    I don't support this update, because the economy balancing is not fair.

    What I mean is

    Well. For example, we compare the use of golds and elixirs.

    Golds is used for defenses, traps, search in multiplayer battles and walls. Walls, just for upgrading to level 8 cost 112.5 million of golds. We haven't count defenses and traps. If a building average costs 2 million, and we should know there is a plenty of upgrades at th8. It will give a much bigger cost for golds. It can took 102 millions, on traps and defenses. Plus clan castle can add 2 more millions.

    In the other side, elixir just for troops, barracks, and laboratory. On th8, we can upgrade 13 troops to the higher level, that if in the average is 2.25 million of elixirs, so in total elixir for lab is 29.25 million. Then barracks, to pekka took 8 millions, and dark barracks 8 millions too. Troops, i think because i usually use barb-healer when attaking on multiplayer, so it just cost 40 k each attacks. And i think it doesn't cost much.

    As a result, we need 215 millions of golds, compare with 75 millions of elixirs. It such a big number, isn't it?

    So where we must put those 125 millions of elixirs?

    To make it useful, I think please make lvl 8 walls can be upgraded by elixirs.

    just hoping for that. Sorry for my bad grammar. I hope this can be confirmed again for the next update.

    Those gold and elixirs comparing may be vary, and I just took the main lines. If I make all countings precisely, I'm sure it will be confusing.

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    Elixir for walls at TH8 almost killed the game. If you do 4 seconds of searching you will find thousands of explanations why it is was the single worst thing SC has ever done to clash of clans. It should never and will never happen again without some form of minimum storage cap. It is the worst idea of the day every time it is suggested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    Elixir for walls at TH8 almost killed the game. If you do 4 seconds of searching you will find thousands of explanations why it is was the single worst thing SC has ever done to clash of clans. It should never and will never happen again without some form of minimum storage cap. It is the worst idea of the day every time it is suggested.
    And I do agree with that but I also do feel for my second account which is town hall 8, it is near impossible to save up for golem upgrade level 2, full elixr and high dark elixr makes you prime target for TH9s and that is even with the TH on the outside. It does kind of kill the game for TH8s aswell. I think there has to be some tweaking but not sure what exactly. I think I have previously suggested to have DE drill level 4 upgrade available to TH8 which I think could help.
    Last edited by ironagedave; April 7th, 2015 at 02:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironagedave View Post
    And I do agree with that but I also do feel for my second account which is town hall 8, it is near impossible to save up for golem upgrade level 2, full elixr and high dark elixr makes you prime target for TH9s and that is even with the TH on the outside. It does kind of kill the game for TH8s aswell. I think there has to be some tweaking but not sure what exactly.
    I have two TH8 accounts, one with everything maxed except DE troops. I know this frustration all too well. It is still FAR better for the game to accommodate the vast majority of players than the tiny minority that are late TH8 and refuse to upgrade (myself included).

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    Both of them, I mean.

    I hope level 8 walls can be upgraded by both of elixir and gold, cost the same 200k.

    If u don't agree, Please tell me the reason why and the evidence.

    Please leave that below this reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaseAlpha11 View Post
    I hope level 8 walls can be upgraded by both of elixir and gold, cost the same 200k.

    If u don't agree, Please tell me the reason why and the evidence.

    Please leave that below this reply.
    Uhm level 8 walls cost 500k, the reason was because there was a drought of elixr overnight - as soon as this was originally available everybody at TH8 who maxed their elixr storages dumped it into their walls and killed the economy for everyone.

    There is no easy solution to excess elixr at TH8

    I have suggested making level 4 DE drills available at TH8 - one person thinks that would make farming lucrative for TH9 but I still think it is an option.

    You could try using more costly troop builds - but that takes longer to do quick raids - so it is a difficult conundrum once I have my walls, traps and teslas done - IM just going to move to TH9 ASAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironagedave View Post
    Uhm level 8 walls cost 500k, the reason was because there was a drought of elixr overnight - as soon as this was originally available everybody at TH8 who maxed their elixr storages dumped it into their walls and killed the economy for everyone.

    There is no easy solution to excess elixr at TH8

    I have suggested making level 4 DE drills available at TH8 - one person thinks that would make farming lucrative for TH9 but I still think it is an option.

    You could try using more costly troop builds - but that takes longer to do quick raids - so it is a difficult conundrum once I have my walls, traps and teslas done - IM just going to move to TH9 ASAP
    I felt many Coc players want to get their th8 maxed before get to th9. I am the one, too. So i think, rather than having much of elixirs that 125 million plenty in our storages as long as th8(based on my first post about this topic), I think why we can't upgrade it with elixir?

    Well, u think upgrading with elixirs can kill the economy. But if walls are with golds, it can be more killing. Why?

    first, I think gold is much more needed than elixir. So players usually have bigger GG than EE.

    then, if walls are with golds, people that want to get their wall maxed can empty the storages during the night. So there is no gold. So gold that is much more needed, used for upgrade walls, can cause a bigger economy killing.

    I want to know the reason deeper.

    sorry about the price. I type there 200 k, that must be 500k in cost.
    Last edited by BaseAlpha11; April 9th, 2015 at 08:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaseAlpha11 View Post
    I felt many Coc players want to get their th8 maxed before get to th9. I am the one, too. So i think, rather than having much of elixirs that 125 million plenty in our storages as long as th8(based on my first post about this topic), I think why we can't upgrade it with elixir?

    Well, u think upgrading with elixirs can kill the economy. But if walls are with golds, it can be more killing. Why?

    first, I think gold is much more needed than elixir. So players usually have bigger GG than EE.

    then, if walls are with golds, people that want to get their wall maxed can empty the storages during the night. So there is no gold. So gold that is much more needed, used for upgrade walls, can cause a bigger economy killing.

    I want to know the reason deeper.

    sorry about the price. I type there 200 k, that must be 500k in cost.
    Ok in a nut shell this is the reason.
    Elixr - needs to be plentiful a) for basic troop upgrades, but more importantly b) so that you have enough to be able to raid constantly. No elixr - no raids, the need for raiding increases each TH level you upgrade to especially at TH9 and 10 - if you cut off the elixr supply for TH9 - you also cut off the elixr supply at TH10 thus rendering the game unplayable for higher levels.
    Gold needs to be rarer - to make it a challenge to upgrade defence buildings and wallls.
    Dark Elixr needs to be uber rare - because heroes are elite troops and so are dark barrack troops and this needs to be very challenging to max out.
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    No

    That update was the worst update of all time. I wish they would take it away all together. M


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    No

    That update was the worst update of all time. I wish they would take it away all together. And skullz are not hard. Just mash the screen a few times and it will happen. Or do you want the game to be easy. I cant wait to hear you people cry when your aq upgrade is 165k de


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