Ha, I should have rephrased then. I understand the arguments, but I don't believe they are valid. You are playing a social video game that depends partially on clan members attacking, coordinating attacks, donating troops, etc, but you want to have privacy (even if there is an "appear offline mode" everyone still ♥♥♥♥♥es) from the clan that you are CHOOSING to actively be a part of.
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Has anyone ever thought of.. you know.. searching past threads for the answer?
The forum search feature is like a literal broswer page word search feature, except you don't have to visit and load each page. Put in enough of the right words in the search bar, maybe even try the advanced features, possibly check the Similar Threads listed at the bottom of threads, and there is a good chance (a chance, not saying will always happen) that you will spend less time doing that than posting and asking for others to guess at the question.
If it is a ruled out idea, odds are the reason is in the forum, since it had to be talked about by forum goers before Supercell noticed and made a judgement call on it.
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Okay....I'm a clan leader.....as soon as someone gets on....
"Give me xxx troop or else I'll kick you!!!!"
Sure, let's have that!!!!!
It's called looking at someone collectors, and when they last posted in the chat, and if they have a league badge or not, or....you know what? I'm tired of reasoning with people who obstinately defend RULED OUT ideas
My point is you were imposing your own views on how much you care about provicy on others implying that they wre wrong and therefore their feelings shouldn't matter.
But now here you are suggesting a person could opt to have their privacy or can shre it. That is better because it allows each to make their own choice. (It fits with my 'if I want you to know I will tell you' attitude) So if they implemented it that way I wound not be so bugged.
Note - MY own point of view is I don't get why guys care so much. But I run a well organized clan (or actually have arranged it to run itself) with no communication issues. The clan flows well enough the leader doesn't have to play control freak to try and keep it in order. I supposed though some of the kid leaders that don't have the management chops need to play it that way in their quest to get control.
If everything angers you then you will spend your entire life being angry.
If everything pains you then you will spend your entire life in pain.
I've seen several posts on this and have yet to hear or be linked to a supercell reasoning as to why it isn't being implemented. I get the privacy reasoning every time and I disagree that it is an issue.
Saying something is ruled out does not make it a poor idea, there are a 100 different reasons why they might rule it out. If anyone can find super cells "official response" I'd be glad to read it, but I have looked, I know how to navigate the forums.
Finally, whomever your name is, on an iPad so can't look back. You first talk about how leaders can demand troops or kick someone for not donating when they are online. Then go on to say how easy it is to determine without an online indicator... Which is it? If it is as easy as you say, the privacy is already gone, leaders can already do that? If you are a leader booting people for that you are a terrible leader, if you are in a clan where a leader does that, you are better off out of the clan and finding a new one.
I get that it is ruled out, people should look before posting the ideas, but I don't like people responding with the tired old excuses as to why it is ruled out because privacy in clash of clans would not be an issue. I can find all of your guys' email addresses in here, probably do a search to find out pretty much anything I want simply from this forum. In clash of clans all I get is, "a leader can be a ♥♥♥♥ and make people donate when they don't want to." That isn't a privacy issue, that is a clan issue. If someone can harass you privately, find information about you, that is a privacy issue.
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Has anyone stopped and thought about how an online indicator would look in operation?
I don't know about everyone, but I bounce around several other apps on my phone. If I stay away from CoC too long, it disconnects. Even when I do a bunch of raids on end, I still switch, and likely drop connection, but still have a several minute grace period afterwards. Depending on how it is done, the online indicator is going to be blinking/spamming rather neurotically it's realtime status of my login.
So, multiply that by some million times, telling several others in that same millions of players that others are online then offline, then on, then off, then on for a long time... maybe, and gone for hours on end. That will be more broadcasting of data than is probably really worth doing.
Plus as was stated before, is the drama of logging in, being found out you logged in, and harrassed for something. Though honestly that is kind of a weak argument, since as soon as you do some action, like request troops, or someone realizes your wrecked base is back up and training troops, you'll likely get bugged anyway. Only reason I'd tell someone to do something right away after logging in is if they have been silent too long. Silent members, ignoring your messages, aren't good members. So in effect it is almost "Say 'Hi', now, or be kicked"And if you have a Co-Leader or Leader asking "Donate or get kicked", might as well save them the trouble if they don't listen to reason. Best to find a clan with better management and personally skills than that.
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Well I guess it would act similarity to the database of people eligible or not eligible to attack due to their online status, something that is already in and working properly. I have never gotten attacked while online, and I've closed out my app for 2 minutes and gotten attacked so. I like you just fine Warren, generally the voice of reason.
I do want to say for the record that I could give a ♥♥♥♥ less if there is an indicator, I have never started a thread on it, but it has been brought up several times in the last two days and everyone regurgitates the best defense against it they have heard from others and I have yet to think, "well that makes sense". I do give in to good defense and reasoning (see defense bonus threads), just don't see it here yet.
It is a popular idea (anyone can use the search function, if you don't know where it is see Warrens essay on it) and has been posted 19 pages worth. Didn't see a supercell explanation but it is in the ruled out... Along with customizable flags. (Before anyone says they aren't "customizable" I'd like to note there at now, actively 18,960 unique flag options, more options than my character in Diablo 3)
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