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    Prevent spying by restricting trap visibility to elders and higher

    For clans that war perpetually, it's hard to tell whether an applicant is a spy who knows the opposing clan and feeds the opposing clan trap intelligence, or a genuine applicant. Thus, many applicants end up rejected because they applied at a bad time and looked like a potential spy.

    This problem would be alleviated if only clanmates ranked elder and higher can see their other clanmates' traps.

    Some would say that this prevents normal members from giving feedback on base design to their other clanmates, but I think that
    1. Most people giving feedback on base design tend to be ranked members
    2. Otherwise, it wouldn't be too much of a problem to just say in the chat where traps are placed.

    I'm sorry if this idea already came up, but I couldn't find it using search.

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    Better idea, they cant join the enemy clan until the war is over p.s. Finding a result with the search bar is like winning the lottery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymondbl View Post
    For clans that war perpetually, it's hard to tell whether an applicant is a spy who knows the opposing clan and feeds the opposing clan trap intelligence, or a genuine applicant. Thus, many applicants end up rejected because they applied at a bad time and looked like a potential spy.

    This problem would be alleviated if only clanmates ranked elder and higher can see their other clanmates' traps.

    Some would say that this prevents normal members from giving feedback on base design to their other clanmates, but I think that
    1. Most people giving feedback on base design tend to be ranked members (maybe true in your clan but 'most' is not incorrect. Many clans it would actually hurt them to do this.)
    2. Otherwise, it wouldn't be too much of a problem to just say in the chat where traps are placed.

    I'm sorry if this idea already came up, but I couldn't find it using search.
    Its come up many time. Its actually not a problem to be solved. Spying is part of the game as designed. The people that come here wanting solutions are the ones that can't figure any other way to stop getting outsmarted than to have someone else stop it for them. But really the best way to stop getting outsmarted is simply to get smarter.

    To butt hurt guys all mad that they got suckered....
    • Close your clan.
    • If you have to have your clan constantly open to recruit then it means you are constantly losing people too. Fix that problem. Then close your clan.
    • If you are a constant war clan that has to always recruit guys during war to use in the next war you are having much bigger problems from that than a few spies. Fix that problem. Then close your clan.
    • If you just can't wrap your head around the above - Set to invite only and only take in guys that you invite. Never accept requests out of the blue from total strangers during war. (Didn't your mom ever tell you never take candy from a stranger?)
    • Run decoy bases so that if someone spies on you it works in your favor instead of theirs. (actually this is kind of fun to do because its a blast watching the replays later)
    • Put your traps inside your bases so that it really doesn't matter that much if they know them.
    • If a constant war clan can be a little more organized - Set up a feeder/staging clan and have it constantly open. Keep war clan closed. After each war open war clan briefly for all the guys being added to come over at once. Then close again. For best benefit, have guys wait in staging clan at least one full war before coming over as this will filter hoppers too.


    To spies...
    • Its a stupid waste of time. The info you gather does not make enough of a difference to be worth the time and effort.
    • If it does make a difference because you really have no other way to figure out bases then that's pretty bad. Work to improve your analytical skills.
    • Never fully trust what you think you found out. If you got suckerd by a decoy you are going to watch your hogs all go up in double GB traps that were not there when you were looking before. Serves you right.
    • Just because the other guy was dumb enough to fall for it does not mean you are any genius. Have some pride, learn some skills. really.
    Last edited by rwelshjr; March 22nd, 2015 at 04:51 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Json8r View Post
    Better idea, they cant join the enemy clan until the war is over p.s. Finding a result with the search bar is like winning the lottery
    That won't work. The problem is that these spies communicate by e-mail or some other medium, and they aren't even originally from the enemy clan. They seem totally unrelated to the enemy clan, but they're spies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwelshjr View Post
    Its come up many time. Its actually not a problem to be solved. Spying is part of the game as designed. The people that come here wanting solutions are the ones that can't figure any other way to stop getting outsmarted than to have someone else stop it for them. But really the best way to not get outsmarted is simply to get smarter....

    Knowledge of trap location is a huge help because when there are ten 2x2 spaces and you'retrying to hog them, the dislocation caused by a tesla could mean everything, and you can't risk it.


    I haven't had problems with spies so far because we reject everyone. The problem is that we need to reject everyone.
    I disagree that clans which need new members are having problems. If we only have 20 members, and applicants only come every two days or so, we would like to be able to safely admit them.

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    No, spying is fun. If you don't want people spying on your clan, take a screenshot of the other clans members at war start, set clan to invite only, and only accept people who's names aren't in the screenshot. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome View Post
    No, spying is fun.
    I deplore your unfair tactics.
    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome View Post
    If you don't want people spying on your clan, take a screenshot of the other clans members at war start, set clan to invite only, and only accept people who's names aren't in the screenshot. Problem solved.
    That won't work because the spies don't even come from the opposing clan to begin with. They communicate through other means and stay in another clan so they don't rouse suspicion.

    My suggestion is the only way.
    Last edited by Raymondbl; March 22nd, 2015 at 05:50 PM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymondbl View Post
    I deplore your unfair tactics.


    That won't work because the spies don't even come from the opposing clan to begin with. They communicate through other means and stay in another clan so they don't rouse suspicion.

    My suggestion is the only way.
    Well, my clan is set to closed during wars, and we have never been spied on. Wonder why😏
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome View Post
    Well, my clan is set to closed during wars, and we have never been spied on. Wonder why��
    Of course, this feature request is not important for closed clans with 50 members, or for lulls in between wars.
    But some clans start a war less than 10 minutes after the last one finishes.

    Wouldn't it be nice to never have to fear spying ever again, and be able to safely admit new recruits?


    To reply to some of rwelshjr's points:

    Decoy bases don't work once war is started and the spy is still in your clan giving intel.
    We don't want to close our clan because we would like a small trickle of new members.
    The only applicants we get are those "total strangers from out of the blue during war," so we have no choice.
    Last edited by Raymondbl; March 22nd, 2015 at 06:24 PM.

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    Or maybe just make it so that as long as they have that red "new" next to their name, they can't view war traps
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