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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfDesigns View Post
    So I just came across the most obnoxious pair of players deriding the concept of rushing. I tried to have a lively debate and explained to them the difference between being a preemie and an educated rusher. They responded by using the most childish insults in the book. I just gave up trying to talk to them and returned to my own business.

    My question to all of you is, why do so many people hate rushers, even if the rusher knows exactly what they are doing?

    I don't care if you rush your Town Hall. Actually, please, rush your TH! More loot for me! Just don't expect ME to rush MY TH. And don't try to join my clan either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneHed13 View Post
    I rushed my TH9 to TH10 and I regret it. My situation was where (before the war opt-in/opt-out feature) I was in a clan of friends but was sick of doing wars. I got out of the clan and I went to TH10 basically for the extra drills (I tend to raid rarely and wanted a little more loot coming in). I ended up joining another clan where we didn't war much and slowly upgraded my defenses, got my xbox, inferno towers etc. When the update came out, my clan re-joined with the other clan and when we started doing wars again, we would get much more difficult draws because I (and someone else) had rushed to 10. I cannot hold my own against TH10's (attacking wise) and have some difficulty at high TH9 because of this but I think the programming over values my power when looking for other groups to raid.

    So I get why clans dislike it. I war just fine (I normally wait til the end to do my attacks because I am far from the top 5 attackers on my team but am ranked number 2) but often am cleaning up or getting an extra star or two on bases that we haven't cleaned up.

    Basically, makes wars much more difficult with harder enemies and less effective higher level players.
    rushing wasnt the problem, it was that you rushed without care.

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    I dont think rushing a th would even matter if it werent for clan wars. Before clan wars you just did what you wanted to do and the only harm was maybe getting farmed and 3 starred. Now being way too rushed can cost your clan, but with the ability to be able to sit out wars your clan can keep you on the sidelines until your of the level they require to fight. I rushed my th up to 7 pretty fast over a few months, than got th 8 80% complete, than th 9 roughly 75% maxed and here I am now, working my last few cannons and archer towers to max and im fully maxed as far as buildings, just walls to work on. If you rush your th and also trophy hunt and get into higher trophy levels of farming, your going to be in trouble. Really I think someone could come up with a guide on how to properly rush your townhall, and post in on forums. I feel as if the way I did it was perfectly fine, never felt over matched, I mean the biggest thing for me was always using a farming base and the free shield. If you can farm good, you can rush. If you cant, max th level by th level before going up. Always a right and wrong way to do things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robkisgod View Post
    I dont think rushing a th would even matter if it werent for clan wars. Before clan wars you just did what you wanted to do and the only harm was maybe getting farmed and 3 starred. Now being way too rushed can cost your clan, but with the ability to be able to sit out wars your clan can keep you on the sidelines until your of the level they require to fight. I rushed my th up to 7 pretty fast over a few months, than got th 8 80% complete, than th 9 roughly 75% maxed and here I am now, working my last few cannons and archer towers to max and im fully maxed as far as buildings, just walls to work on. If you rush your th and also trophy hunt and get into higher trophy levels of farming, your going to be in trouble. Really I think someone could come up with a guide on how to properly rush your townhall, and post in on forums. I feel as if the way I did it was perfectly fine, never felt over matched, I mean the biggest thing for me was always using a farming base and the free shield. If you can farm good, you can rush. If you cant, max th level by th level before going up. Always a right and wrong way to do things.
    Yeah I feel you definitely. I'll go into global with my rushed TH9 account and people will hate on me for having level 20 heroes, Lego walls, and TH7 point defenses.

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    Before I say this, some people would call me a Rusher, I am a th9 with th7/th8 point defenses (except for ad's and xbows) but I have half lava and half lego walls and combined lvl 30 heroes. I upgraded prematurely because my farming is well above the average clasher (on the order of I would have literally lost hundreds of millions of elixir if I would have stayed at th8).

    So yes, I think rushing was right for me.

    But, people seem to dislike some rushers on the forums in my opinion because they seem to arrogantly believe rushing is right for everyone and claim that it is the best and most optimal way to play for all clashers(it's not) and think that anyone that plays differently are just sheep following the herd.

    On top of this I also think a lot of rushers on the forums have some misconceptions

    • They believe that by upgrading their TH and a few select troops/war troops that they will magically 3 star any base in war. One of the common phrases is "sure I'll be 3 starred in war, but I'll 3 star two of their bases with my troops". 3 starring takes skill and time regardless of your troops. My th9 base has held bad th10 attackers to 0 stars and has been 2/3 starred by skilled th9. You need experience in war to be good at war.
    • Farming always gets easier as you upgrade your TH. I will concede that DE gets easier as you climb th levels but most gold/elixir farming peaks at th8/th9. This doesn't mean that TH10 gold/elixir loot is horrible, but most th10 farmers agree that gold and elixir were easier to come by earlier.
    • That people only dislike them because people mistakes rushers for premies (who everyone dislikes except to farm off of). But, there is no clear line between rushers and premies. You can make loose rules about troop upgrades and building upgrades but that isn't usually enough. So, when it comes down to it though there usually isn't a way to tell if someone is rushing smartly or are just a slightly upgraded premie.


    From experience from a continuously warring clan I can say that the easiest and most lopsided wars were against "premies/rushers" see above for how that is nearly impossible to tell. We are a primarily th8/th9 clan and these clans did have war troops leveled but most were th9/th10 with underleveled defenses. I can say that we have faced numerous of these clans and it's always been a massacre. So, maybe they just weren't "rushing right"? Well, that might be the case, but if we have faced 5+ "rushing wrong" clans, and 0 "rushing right clans" it shows that the majority are doing it wrong.

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    i'm a rusher

    hello . currently i'm a rusher . just playing about 2 month IMO . starting from 13 jan until now . and i'm th 9 . in my opinion rushing not bad as people say . i can still farm to max my barch , loonion .
    so the strategy for smart rushing is always about offense . when i rushing i make sure that i'm currently maxed out my offense ( 1 farming troop , 1 war troop ) . for farming i prefer barch with 220 space . for war i unlock the lava and goes for lavaloon . yeah that strategy is too good for war . in clan war my base always get crushed for 1-2 star . never get 3 starred eventhough no 1 enemy base attack me . (ps - i'm at no 4 ) because of my troop upgrade i can get easy 6 star back . by 3 starring enemy same number with me and revenge that no 1 . so for me rushing is not bad if you know how the gameplay work . just work on your usefull troops and spells . and get max camp , sf . and you ready for next th . so for me rushing aren't bad . just need to be active . can farm about 1-2 million per session is enough .

    as example . for lvl 6 loon you need 6 m elixir . after you get that loon . you still got 10 days for farming elixir to make sure your lab is keep going . if you can't farm 600k elixir a day better quit . my journey was inspired by morgauth , sharonysm , forgivemenot . when reading their thread seem like their argument are strong enough . while everyone else keep saying max your def . i would like to say when i farm i prefer to take on max th 8 not the premmie of th 9,10 . cause of what ? because the 3 storage are easy to get .

    just my opinion . people got their way to play clash of clans . great day . happy clashing

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    If done correctly you certainly can rush and be successful, but that means having at the very least the proper offensive capabilities. Unfortunately most players neglect this simple concept, so you end up with a base that has poor defense, in addition a weak offensive capacity, then players complain that they are unable to get the resources which they sorely require.

    It has been proved that defenseless champ accounts you don't need defenses what so ever to be successful, but the combination of poor defenses and poor troops that is the death nail in the coffins of many a rusher. I do believe that some players might have a dogmatic view of the game after watching others have bad experiences with rushing and thus being premature, but perhaps also their own experiences.

    Currently I joined a clan to war with where there are several players who might be town hall 9 yet have level 4 archers and barbarians and have no more than hog riders as their highest dark troop. That guy will struggle I think we can all agree on that, and unfortunately they have never farmed/attacked with anything beyond dragons which I am not sure that is farming as they are losing resources by even attacking and making paltry sums.

    When it comes to clan war the person who is rushed like that how can they possibly contribute much less pull their own weight?

    I believe this is what causes the angst when it comes to rushing, because many times it is done with poor planning thus leading to offensive deficiencies.
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    rush with proper offense is good . rushing without troop or just want those fancy xbow , inferno is ♥♥♥♥ . for a rusher this tagline may be useful


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    The answer to this is so symple that does not even deserve a thread. It just gets harder to upgrade the rest of ur base if you rush it, cause of TH penaltys. BUt if u have unlimited time to work harder on your base, then its probably a good idea, considering u upgrade ur offense first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowslayer3120 View Post

    I don't care if you rush your Town Hall. Actually, please, rush your TH! More loot for me! Just don't expect ME to rush MY TH. And don't try to join my clan either.
    hoping you can find me on master 2 . i can offer you some trophy . for loot ? emmm all my gold went to the wall and some def . you still can get 4 elixir storage full from me . losing 350k elixir and some trophy i can gain back on 3-4 raid + loot bonus

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