Dishonor achievement on Profile

[BlizablO]

Then how is it achievement?

I don't know how else to include the data to a profile, i did not write the code or design the game. i am defining a need in relative terms to the current environment. implement the end result as you see fit as game designers. it may need interpretation to suit your needs.

[BlizablO]

Your dishonour achievement would create a new subset of players that aim to max out this achievement so would further proliferate the issue you have.

good max it out all you want, so we can exclude you all from our wars!

[trooperc007]

Sorry, they won't add negative stats.

[rwelshjr]

Dishonor achievement on Profile

due to clan war leavers and saboteurs intentionally getting in war and not attacking!

There needs to be a Dishonor Achievement on profile.

if you are included in war and don't attack you get 1 dishonor point per unused attack at the end of the war.
if you are included in war and don't attack and you leave the clan you get dishonor x2 for 4 points!

these need to be a PERMANENT black mark on your profile so clans can judge these people and not include them in wars!

we have tried waiting periods till "new" expires, we have tried waiting till 1 & even 2 wars have passed and they still do it.

IMO this is really ruining your game.

This is a Serious problem and we need a Serious fix!

Please get behind this and take it to the top for immediate inclusion.

Why get behind it? Its a bad suggestion for how it wont work and instead just cause more trouble than hoppers do already.

1. Hopefully to make less trouble all they do is drop a couple quick barbs so they did both attacks and then left.
2. Or to make more trouble they troll the clan until they are kicked. Damage the heck out of that clan. Maybe drop the barbs as part of that. But make sure they hurt them in other ways too so that leader will hurry up with the kick.

Both the above would earn zero points.

If a guy has decided to dump on your clan that stinks. But you certainly want them out of there fast if they are against you so better they just leave.

OP is more thinking mad than thinking clearly.

[iceageg]

SC will not be adding any negative statistic/badge/mark/flag/etc. to anybody's profile. Name-n-shame is a bad policy in general and it is professional suicide to treat your customers that way. This is why they have stated in the past that they won't do it. You can effectively accept any form of branding players officially ruled out.

To expand in more detail on the worse result that rwelshjr was explaining . . .

You need to remember who you are complaining about here. Either the player leaving is leaving because you have a poor clan and/or poor leadership, or they are leaving because they have questionable moral integrity. For the sake of argument lets assume you are a wise and effective leader, so this must be one of those d-bags that hangs you out to dry. If you get your way and players are forced to stay or penalized for leaving . . . <fade to foreshadowed scene>

1) D-bag joins
2) You start war
3) D-bag wants to leave but can't (SUCCESS!!! He is stuck with you now!!!)
4) D-bag is a d-bag and wants out, so he decides to get kicked out
5) So he fills war castles with goblins and wallbreakers
6) And fills donations with goblins and wall breakers
7) And turns your clan chat into something that makes global look like bible study
8) And defames your clan on global
9) Then wastes both attacks in the war anyway
9a) Set their base up so it is super easy to 3*
10) And continues to fill war requests with ♥♥♥♥ troops
11) Maybe even comes to the forums to badmouth you and your clan
12) You kick them out
or
12) Your other clan members leave because you won't kick out the D-bag

Remember, this is already a person who doesn't care if they hurt your clan. Long story short, you are requesting a way to force people who don't want to be in your clan, who you don't even want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan. NOTHING good can come of this. Bad idea every time it is suggested.

Also, in an effort to not only help the OP understand the horrible repercussions of their idea, here is a list of many of the most common things successful clans do to prevent "D-bag hoppers" from being a nuisance (a nuisance, not a problem). Quoting myself from a recent thread again . . .

Most people who switch between clans do it for very good, fruitful reasons. Since the game can't tell these players from your much maligned "hoppers" the majority of us would end up penalized because a few players who didn't want to be in your clan but you let in anyway. The truly nefarious hoppers are usually very easy to spot and deal with. Players who are genuinely searching for a clan are simply part of the game, just like people searching for the right job are a part of real life. What you have hear is a clan management problem. One all of us have experienced and learned from. It has been discussed on the forum many times. Here's how most of us have solved this.

1) Set the clan to invite only.
2) Don't give elder to anybody who can't conduct themselves as an adult
3) Don't give Co-leader to anybody you don't trust
4) Make sure both elders and Co's understand that it is ok to accept new members
5) Make sure they understand they are expected to BOOT new members if
5a) They introduce themselves by asking for troops
5b) Introduce themselves with profanity
5c) Introduce themselves with some form of "rate my base!!!!"
5d) Don't respond when welcomed
5e) Ask for elder/Co in the first conversation
5f) Start filling castles with ♥♥♥♥
6) Clan rule that new members don't participate in the first war (Opted out by leader/co)
7) Only recruit 1-2 new players between each war, none during

Others may chime in with additional ideas but those are the basic ones. Follow those and hoppers will end 99% instantly. Not to mention you will crack a smile when you apply your boots to their crack.

All of us clan leader types have experienced this and learned to preventing through our own leadership skills and clan rules. There is no need to institute a system that will punish the most social and giving players while making the lowest quality players more destructive.

In my time on the forum here I still have yet to see the answer to these simple questions. Why do you want to force somebody that you don't want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan? What does that say about you as a person?

[edomingox]

Dishonor achievement on Profile

due to clan war leavers and saboteurs intentionally getting in war and not attacking!

There needs to be a Dishonor Achievement on profile.

if you are included in war and don't attack you get 1 dishonor point per unused attack at the end of the war.
if you are included in war and don't attack and you leave the clan you get dishonor x2 for 4 points!

these need to be a PERMANENT black mark on your profile so clans can judge these people and not include them in wars!

we have tried waiting periods till "new" expires, we have tried waiting till 1 & even 2 wars have passed and they still do it.

IMO this is really ruining your game.

This is a Serious problem and we need a Serious fix!

Please get behind this and take it to the top for immediate inclusion.

I have no issues here. I don't recruit people I don't know. Marking people will just make the problem worse.

[senoj]

I'm not interested in shaming players, but it would be nice to know the clan war stats of individuals with in your clan. Percentage of used attacks is my strongest issue. It could even be just while part of your clan. Percentage of stars won would be useful as well to see who just drops troops and bails on their attack, again, can just be while part of your clan. These statistics would help in the decision making process of who to include in the next war. I forsee that some people would try to leave and come back to reset their stats. Those people could be declined easily.

[victort]

I'm not interested in shaming players, but it would be nice to know the clan war stats of individuals with in your clan. Percentage of used attacks is my strongest issue. It could even be just while part of your clan. Percentage of stars won would be useful as well to see who just drops troops and bails on their attack, again, can just be while part of your clan. These statistics would help in the decision making process of who to include in the next war. I forsee that some people would try to leave and come back to reset their stats. Those people could be declined easily.

Supercell have stated many times that they WILL NOT DO ANYTHING, to record negative stats against players, EVER.

If there is any negative connotation to the player, they will not do it(any slight negative, or nearly negative, or possibly negative, try as you might),. ... It is fully against their"no naming and shaming"policy......... not even just for clan leaders...... just will not do it..... for any reason.... No, nein, niet, not interested, Nada, Nothing, its tough,but just No....

[webbie]

Supercell have stated many times that they WILL NOT DO ANYTHING, to record negative stats against players, EVER.

If there is any negative connotation to the player, they will not do it(any slight negative, or nearly negative, or possibly negative, try as you might),. ... It is fully against their"no naming and shaming"policy......... not even just for clan leaders...... just will not do it..... for any reason.... No, nein, niet, not interested, Nada, Nothing, its tough,but just No....

I think he's against you idea.

I agree with him not going to happen.