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    Quote Originally Posted by Gub View Post
    Btw, I rarely use rage. Most of the time I use lightning, and that is very effective, because your dragons only have to take down one air defence, and the balloons can take out the other.
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    AD666 is not hard to 3 star, but balloon placement is very important.
    The biggest drawback to lightning attack is that your drags are now on their own to absorb all the damage coming from the rest of the base, including up to 2 ADs, and don't forget mines, which quickly torch dragons as well. See comment above about high HP structures in front of ADs and how to counter that (e.g. heal spell). When you use all your spells on lightning, you can't perform that counter. This can cause significantly challenges.

    And, at times, loon pathing isn't easy to an AD, even when there are only 2 left. I'm very confused how you can say the loons will, "get the other." Sometimes, that's a royal pain in the ♥♥♥♥.

    I do not agree that AD666 is, "not hard" to 3-star with a dragon attack. Yes, lame bases are easy to 3-star, but even a decent base with AD 666 presents significant challenges to a dragon attack.

    I'd love to know what your criteria is for it being, "not hard."

    What is your success rate on AD666?

    If you say something like, "in excess of 90%" or, even worse, "100%," & we're talking about a dragon attack, I will first raise an eyebrow, then probably laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe View Post
    The biggest drawback to lightning attack is that your drags are now on their own to absorb all the damage coming from the rest of the base, including up to 2 ADs, and don't forget mines, which quickly torch dragons as well. See comment above about high HP structures in front of ADs and how to counter that (e.g. heal spell). When you use all your spells on lightning, you can't perform that counter. This can cause significantly challenges.

    And, at times, loon pathing isn't easy to an AD, even when there are only 2 left. I'm very confused how you can say the loons will, "get the other." Sometimes, that's a royal pain in the ♥♥♥♥.

    I do not agree that AD666 is, "not hard" to 3-star with a dragon attack. Yes, lame bases are easy to 3-star, but even a decent base with AD 666 presents significant challenges to a dragon attack.

    I'd love to know what your criteria is for it being, "not hard."

    What is your success rate on AD666?

    If you say something like, "in excess of 90%" or, even worse, "100%," & we're talking about a dragon attack, I will first raise an eyebrow, then probably laugh.
    Hm? Success rate on ad666? Well mate, depends. If I bring the right spell combo, deploy balloons at the right angle, correct hero placement, then probably 95%, and you can laugh, not that I care people laugh at 3 stars, but I guess its just a personal sense of humour.

    The criteria? Triangulated-spread out placement.

    Why I rarely use rage and heal? Because I rarely come across those bases.

    Seriously, I am not a smart ♥♥♥ who thinks he is the best at using dragons, simply someone who CAN 3 star bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gub View Post
    Hm? Success rate on ad666? Well mate, depends. If I bring the right spell combo, deploy balloons at the right angle, correct hero placement, then probably 95%
    Well, of course. Those are mighty big, "If's" though.

    What I mean is, if you looked at, say, the last 20 wars, and counted how many times you dragon-attacked an AD666 (or even AD665), how many times have you 3-starred those particular bases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelderon View Post
    At th 8 going against 3 lv6 ads you need two heals or a snipe team and 3 lighting. Some bases you have to do multi faceted attacks where your forces are deployed separately but come back together along your designated attack line. 10 drags are for simple bases. max or near max th8s you almost always need a more diverse troop mix then the 105.21 or 105.3. I use 10 different drag troop combinations for attacks on a regular bases and will be adding more when I get my hogs up. The point is an attacker needs to have options with attacks and one troop combo is not options just because you change up the spells. I have no doubt that it gets you three stars some of the time but when going for consistency you need to change it up based on your target and personal capabilities. If you want to have a real drag guide then add attacks like 11 or 99 or 813 or 717 with the different spell combinations and multiple attack lines. Go in-depth into the role of the drag with the different attacks. And then you will have a dragon guide.

    99 is good when your clan doesn't have lv 6 loons. The extra loons really help to bring down the defences faster and if placed right last until just point damage is possible. There are countless base designs so attacking needs to be just as diverse.
    maybe you need to funnel better? I can and have 3 starred max th 8 with 10 drag 5 loon 2 rage 1 heal. Spread ad, line ad, cored ad, burst dmg core ad setup. You funnel makes or breaks your attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyleow View Post
    maybe you need to funnel better? I can and have 3 starred max th 8 with 10 drag 5 loon 2 rage 1 heal. Spread ad, line ad, cored ad, burst dmg core ad setup. You funnel makes or breaks your attack.
    Sorry but I don't remember saying you couldn't. Just that it doesn't always give you the best shot at getting 3stars. 105.21 is not always the best option especially on basses with soaks on both sides of ads and the drags sit and take a ton of damage as the get thru. Funnel, troop placement and composition all have equal effect on the outcome of attack. When I was new to drags I thought the 105.21 was the best and that I could use it all the time but time after time it was stopped against some layouts. Then I opened my mind and realized that I got more consistent 3stars from diversifying my attacks and using the right combo for the village I targeted. Its part of the learning curve that you will get past or stay at.

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    Ooh. I'm the one tackling this base in war. Might as well go to with 105.3

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    Good luck I look forward to the replay.

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    i am doing a video compiation of most famous base getting 3 star th8 vs th8 link in my signature. Op please can you post a video on the first base ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RakeNoris View Post
    i am doing a video compiation of most famous base getting 3 star th8 vs th8 link in my signature. Op please can you post a video on the first base ?
    Sure... Are you talking about the one from the above posts, or the one in the OP.

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    Sad news. Miscommunication in my clan and I had to take a lower base with AD555. nm to see.

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