What irks me about filling Boat crates

[Mustkulta]

Ahhhhh ok then fair enough. I have on a few occasions been short a sugar or milk but normally if i see the amounts i have and the amounts needed are not even close i send it away.

yes, i do wish i could leave more for others but faster they are done more bonus, not to mention i live in EU so time difference plays a factor as well.

to compensate for the lack of crates i sell good items spread out during the day none adverted for friends to benefit from, from rings, sugar, dairy, necklaces, all sorts of cooked foods. I do not work, so when i am up i am running my machines full speed and since I have not been playing but maybe 3 weeks, i have limited space and storage..so sell I must

sorry, maybe I sounded a bit harsh, but I was not 'demanding' anything actually. I have said I prefer to help any all all crates which does not ask for cream and sugar and I hope my friends will prefer for me to flag non sugar and cream crates for help.

If you can fill the boat yourself then no problem! It doesn't affect me or others. I think people are more 'irked' by neighbours who ask for help consistently on sugar and cream. That's all.

Like Schmoo said.

[Anyezia]

I myself had many times cast away 3, 4 even 5 in a row boats which filled with dairy or sugar products. Since I used to call of boats every minute, u all would know how many diamonds I have wasted just to cast away those boats. It costs 15-20 diamonds in 10 minutes, that is the same price for hiring tom for a day! It happened many times in a day, those of u who tends to wait for the next boat to arrive, it's just wasting more than half a day without filling those boats, if u cast all boats which carry sugaar or dairy products. I used up all my diamonds very fast then. I do it because I think in the interest of my neighbours. In the end I started to think no one force the neighbours to help with those boats. I have made so much lost in diamonds for that, cause I dont like to wait. So if there's any neighbour who want to help, big thank you to them and try to help them back with filling their boats with whatever they need. I believe those neighbours who help filling their neighbours boats with dairy or sugar products are sincere in helping and anyway its up to them whether they want to help or not.
I used to feel irks too when I see almost all of my neighbours ask for help with boats carrying sugar or dairy products. But I finally understand why they doing it and it doesnt bother me anymore, its up to me anyway whether I want to help with those boats or not. And its up to them whatever they wanna do with their boat.
Have u ever experience getting at least 3 in a row boats, consecutively, asking for sugars and dairy products. What are u going to do about it? Keep casting away all the boats until it came up with the fillable ones? I'm just wondering.....

[Swisspie81]

I myself had many times cast away 3, 4 even 5 in a row boats which filled with dairy or sugar products. Since I used to call of boats every minute, u all would know how many diamonds I have wasted just to cast away those boats. It costs 15-20 diamonds in 10 minutes, that is the same price for hiring tom for a day! It happened many times in a day, those of u who tends to wait for the next boat to arrive, it's just wasting more than half a day without filling those boats, if u cast all boats which carry sugaar or dairy products. I used up all my diamonds very fast then. I do it because I think in the interest of my neighbours. In the end I started to think no one force the neighbours to help with those boats. I have made so much lost in diamonds for that, cause I dont like to wait. So if there's any neighbour who want to help, big thank you to them and try to help them back with filling their boats with whatever they need. I believe those neighbours who help filling their neighbours boats with dairy or sugar products are sincere in helping and anyway its up to them whether they want to help or not.
I used to feel irks too when I see almost all of my neighbours ask for help with boats carrying sugar or dairy products. But I finally understand why they doing it and it doesnt bother me anymore, its up to me anyway whether I want to help with those boats or not. And its up to them whatever they wanna do with their boat.
Have u ever experience getting at least 3 in a row boats, consecutively, asking for sugars and dairy products. What are u going to do about it? Keep casting away all the boats until it came up with the fillable ones? I'm just wondering.....

Yep. I don't do boats until it doesn't ask for sugar and dairy.

Before I learnt I could send those boats away, I did two sugar boats after completing captain I-III. The more of them I did they kept coming. When I sent off a few, I got more than a few easy boats.

i wait for all my boats to come. I sometimes only did one boat a day and turn off HD to delay it so I could let the products finish making and get more time bonus. It's completely up to you how you want to play the game of course. It is a time based game so it builds patience. And it relies on impatience to make money.

Of course no one is asking the neighbours to help the boats.

But I see it like this: my neighbours get wheel points for filling the crates, so opening the doable and easy ones is much more 'neighbourly' of me, since they can get the crates without losing all their stock on sugar and cream. Most of the time, they can't fill the sugar and cream anyway. Sometimes cheese and goat cheese are ok, but those other ones are still not that fun to fill.

[dls881]

You know, once you've mastered the sugar mill, the sugar crates are pretty easy to fill. Sugar is produced quickly

[Anyezia]

From my experience casting away few boats with dairy n sugar products doesnt make it come less, after it changes to a few of easy ones, it will come back again with a few in a row boats again filled wiith sugar n dairy products, thats happened within one day. I noticed from the last updates, SC has reduced a little bit the amount of sugar n dairy products required for the boats. I think its ok when the syrup ask for 3 bottles or even 4 for each box, but not more than that. I still let go the boats asking for brown sugar and cream because its still way to much, 9,10,11 of them for 1 box. The rest unless they ask for more than 5 or 6 for each box, I do cast them away too, I just think we need to be flexible n not completely against the sugar n dairy products with the exception of brown sugar n creamer n sometimes butter too, its still way too much.
Thats right after u master the sugar mills its not that hard to produce, only the quantity of those items that I do consider when deciding to cast away those boats away or not.
Which one better fill the boats asking for 3 syrup for each box or 2/3 jams for each box? The 2/3 jams, take almost 1 day to produce, (not to mention the fruits which take around a day or two to ripe in the trees) the 3 syrup or even 4 or 5 syrup take 5 hours at the most to produce. I know the syrup needed to make lollypop ice cream (which takes 4hrs to produce) and apple pie (for 2 hrs) but we still have plenty of times to make another syrup before the lollypop ice cream ready.

[powdermonkey]

Now that they have reduced the number of sugar products per crate, almost all boats are mathematically possible to get done within the time allotted. I wouldn't cast off a boat unless it were both mathematically impossible AND unlikely to get help from my friends & followers. In fact I have never cast off a boat (except once by accident), even in the days before the sugar quantity modification, and I have only ever had 2 boats go off incomplete. If you see a tough boat coming up, don't panic, do some calculations and figure out what you need to do to complete it.

Calling a boat early is both a tactical mistake (most of the time) and a huge waste of diamonds. Unless you already have all of the items you need, that interval of 4 hours gives you time to prepare for the boat; even if you already have all of the items you need, that interval of 4 hours gives you time to make a whole lot more sugar and dairy products (that you will surely need in the near future) without having to turn around and immediately put them in the boat.

If you have a boat that doesn't work mathematically, consider this trick: sleep on it. Seriously, this works. You can play up until a few minutes before the boat comes, but the key is that you have to fully load your queues with the proper items before the boat arrives. Then shut down before the boat arrives, go to sleep (or go to work, or go do something else, forget about HayDay for a while). The boat timer doesn't start until you log in again, and by that time your queue will have run all the way through. That way you can make 9 sugars or 9 goat cheeses or 9 syrups (or whatever you need) without any time running off of the boat timer. It makes practically ANY difficult boat do-able.

Good luck everyone!

[Rmy]

QUOTE=Grumbul;489759]Okay, I know, relax and enjoy the game. But what about when you see a boat requesting help with all 3 dairy or sugar? Can't they even try to fill one of those crates? Make your own sugar and cream people, or send the boat away!

On another note, requesting help with easy crates is a neighborly thing to do, because it lets people get helper points (whatever they're really called) as well as gift card opportunities.[/QUOTE]

I almost never help friends when they open three crates of sugar/dairy. Especially cream and brown sugar. It is boring to see those boats. Of course I get xp, coins, boatscore and maybe a giftcard, but I can get that from filling other types of crates too. I think it is selfish to keep a sugar/dairy boat when you expect others to fill it for you. It is no secret that we don't love them. But I gladly help with sugar/dairy if they open one crate, maybe two. (Not brown sugar/cream).

[Swisspie81]

Calling a boat early is both a tactical mistake (most of the time) and a huge waste of diamonds. Unless you already have all of the items you need, that interval of 4 hours gives you time to prepare for the boat; even if you already have all of the items you need, that interval of 4 hours gives you time to make a whole lot more sugar and dairy products (that you will surely need in the near future) without having to turn around and immediately put them in the boat.

If you have a boat that doesn't work mathematically, consider this trick: sleep on it. Seriously, this works. You can play up until a few minutes before the boat comes, but the key is that you have to fully load your queues with the proper items before the boat arrives. Then shut down before the boat arrives, go to sleep (or go to work, or go do something else, forget about HayDay for a while). The boat timer doesn't start until you log in again, and by that time your queue will have run all the way through. That way you can make 9 sugars or 9 goat cheeses or 9 syrups (or whatever you need) without any time running off of the boat timer. It makes practically ANY difficult boat do-able.

Good luck everyone!

Hello powder monkey, I agree with you one hundred percent. In fact I did the exact things you did before I learnt I could cast off boats.

I need to clarify my posts and say two things:

1. The reason why I think people should cast off sugar and cream boats is not that they are not possible to complete with this type of preparation in advance, it is because filling them sets back the sugar and cream stock available.

Sugar and cream is used in over 20 products. The higher you level up the more products unlocked will require sugar and cream. Everything in the ice cream machine, most cakes except the berry cake, baked potatoes, casserole, everything in the coffee machine, everything in the candy machine, cookies, pancakes..... Etc. If you want to run those machines and not run low on all those products at the end of the day, which is near impossible to find in DD, then doing sugar and cream boats is not advisable. But if you want to do it, and can do it yourself, all the more power to you and have fun.

2. My complaint about these cream and sugar boats relates to this action of HELPING neighbours' crates flagged for help. (Otherwise known as Co-Op achievement etc) Opening these sugar and cream crates expecting other people to have so many to spare is not as neighbourly as opening say, a crate of two espressos. The crate of two espressos take 10 minutes in the coffee machine, requires two white sugars, and awards your neighbour with 2 wheel points. A crate of 5 white sugars is only one point. Crate of 10 creams is one wheel point. Not only is it that; but it sets back your friend of those resources needed for their machines. So if you want to do those boats, be nice to your friends and don't flag them for help.

[Schmoo]

... Then shut down before the boat arrives, go to sleep (or go to work, or go do something else, forget about HayDay for a while). The boat timer doesn't start until you log in again..

Apologies for going off topic but it just struck me while reading this post - funny how you can 'freeze' the boat timer while you sleep, but are forced to allow 'Tom time' to go to waste if you want to get some shut-eye.

[Oldmare7]

I Like to help by filling boat crates to get gift vouchers but sometimes it can be three of the same thing ( usually the things I haven't got ! ) . I always fill my crates but leave three different ones open for my friend to fill if they want to .... Even if I still have the products to fill them myself ..... It give them the chance and choice . If after a while no one has filled them I then fill them myself . I don't want my friends to feel they should fill them but that they can if they want ...