Increased Time For War Raids To 4 Minutes

[rwelshjr]

Apologies if this has been suggested before...

I understand the need to have some form of timer for raids. However, I have seen many beautifully creative raids fall short because of time. (They were not beautifully creative but rather flawed by your own admission here)

Pros
- Added creativity to game play (Not true. you are seeking to get a free pass rather than learn creative ways to attack within the time frame.)
- Greater flexibility in combo choices (Not true, all kinds of combo choices work just fine today. Not everyone is having trouble with the 3 minute limit.)
- Greater competition potential in Wars due to greater distributional scoring potential(Not true, there will be less competition. You want to make it so that getting 3 stars is easy, but that will just result in everyone getting three stars and a lot of ties.)
- Fun! (You play with an expectation you would win or its no fun if you think that. The pint of the game though is not to win but to be challenged. Reducing the challenge undermines that)

Cons
- Are there any cons?? (Many, here is just 2)

• it would break down separation of who is good at this game and who is not. The three minute limit is meant to be tough. It separates the men from the boys from the flat our crybabies.
• It also would apply to opponents so it would become very hard to protect a base
• Suddenly it would be defending that is impossible if they make attacking be an automatic win.

Notes
This is a poorly thought out suggestion only supported by those that either can't play or think they are owed a win just for showing up. To inure the future of this game SC actually needs to tighten the screws further so that 3 stars is almost impossible to get. (Right now I would call it hard, but a long way from impossible since good attackers are still running well over 50%)

To those that have been asking for a 4 and 5 star system (a lot of posts, more than we get for this idea) what would be the point of that if getting three stars is the standard? The only way there would be a need to create separation between 2 and 3 stars would be if too many are falling into various places along that gap. This would result in many more three stars and les people coming in between 2 and 3. In that way this suggestion has bearing on your own in that it undermines the need for what you want to do.

Suggestions _ Grow a pair?


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Itoslemma, Level 140ish
Adult Disco

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I can speak as someone that does take on fully developed TH10 bases and is not having trouble meeting the time limit. I do it, and I consider my skills no more than average for my level so if its not a problem for me it should not be a problem for anyone else unless they are just bad at the game. it is not a problem if you plan your attack knowing its there. Those having a problem need to work on their efficiency and stop wasting time earlier in the raid.

Supercell would ruin COC and CW if they took the challenges out of it so they should not do this.

[rwelshjr]

That is kind of the point. The game is pretty much all about blitzing. Smart slow play should be a viable tactic. Besides, I don't know if I agree with your lava loon and rage point, but that digresses from purpose of suggestion.

This had me laughing. Those terms are mutually exclusive. If its slow then it was not smart. You are in a race so you need to speed up.

Allowing for poorly planned attacks to still succeed is not 'opening up the options'. Those attacks should fail so that the person is then forced to figure out how to win without it just being handed to them. Its called a challenge for a reason.

[itoslemma]

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I can speak as someone that does take on fully developed TH10 bases and is not having trouble meeting the time limit. I do it, and I consider my skills no more than average for my level so if its not a problem for me it should not be a problem for anyone else unless they are just bad at the game. it is not a problem if you plan your attack knowing its there. Those having a problem need to work on their efficiency and stop wasting time earlier in the raid.

Supercell would ruin COC and CW if they took the challenges out of it so they should not do this.

- Lol Ok. I am not sure why you automatically assume that the suggestion is because I am looking for a free pass. Far from it. You can easily look up my profile.

- You also presume that all war raids would succeed if they had more time, which is just down right silly.

This had me laughing. Those terms are mutually exclusive. If its slow then it was not smart. You are in a race so you need to speed up.

Allowing for poorly planned attacks to still succeed is not 'opening up the options'. Those attacks should fail so that the person is then forced to figure out how to win without it just being handed to them. Its called a challenge for a reason.

These are absolutely not mutually exclusive. There are ways to tactically remove ADs before a lavaloonion, but doing so takes time. I see nothing wrong with the option to slowly take a base apart.

[itoslemma]

@rwelshjr And your signature making assertions about the entire chinese nationality based off of one picture is downright insulting.

[rwelshjr]

- Lol Ok. I am not sure why you automatically assume that the suggestion is because I am looking for a free pass. Far from it. You can easily look up my profile.

- You also presume that all war raids would succeed if they had more time, which is just down right silly. I did not mean all, but time is the biggest issue you face when doing lavaloon and Gowiwi so the real challenge of them are to be efficient.



These are absolutely not mutually exclusive. There are ways to tactically remove ADs before a lavaloonion, but doing so takes time. I see nothing wrong with the option to slowly take a base apart.

I can't call it a smart tactic if its wasting too much time so I stick to the mutually exclusive statement. Sometimes you have to get creative so your steps overlap. We will have to agree to disagree on it being creative to wanting an easier option to slowly take down the base, I see that as you wanting to take away some of the challenge for the free (or easier anyhow) pass. IMHO you should instead be looking to how you can speed things up.

I have had guys posts replays of attacks (Not sure how, I don't know how to do it myself) they say they ran out of time and felt shafted by it. They were trying to prove your point that there are bases that can't be done in 3 minutes. In all of those cases the other forum users were able to point out where the person wasted time earlier in the attack. I have yet to see one ever that could not have been done in time if the person had been more efficient. I will allow that at higher levels the margin for error does get to be less, even tight. But its not impossible and I don't believe there is any base that can't be taken down within 3 minutes. (allowing of course the attack is good enough to do it at all) That tighter margin of error is not a flaw in the game. it is an intentional challenge factor that you are supposed to be rising to meet.

[BIGDADDYDMAN]

I only agree that higher town halls should have increased time...but a whole minute? Wait a minute....

[rwelshjr]

@rwelshjr And your signature making assertions about the entire chinese nationality based off of one picture is downright insulting.

Its insulting that I am in awe of their prowess they show? And frankly in awe of what that girl is doing? (I could not do that if I tried)

[itoslemma]

Its insulting that I am in awe of their prowess they show? And frankly in awe of what that girl is doing? (I could not do that if I tried)

It is not insulting that you are in awe of what that girl is doing. Not at all... To then make the assertion that you then not stand a chance versus chinese clans is insulting. It paints the generalization that all chinese players can be depicted like the lady in that picture, which is not appropriate, IMO.

[JohnnyPC]

@rwelshjr - I agree 100% with all of your points. 3 minutes plays into strategy, and more time takes the challenge away. I also find your signature humorous - stereotypes exist for a reason; this world needs to lighten up and go back to the days of "sticks and stones may break my bones but words (or gifs) will never hurt me."

[Epthian]

I dont like this idea its JUST like a regular raid except in war this idea isnt that good