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    Reward for successful defense

    The game is geared towards setting up a farming base until you reach higher levels. Last night I had 5 successful defenses while I was a sleep. So woke up with +80 trophies and minus 1.2 mil in resources. oh and had to rearm all traps too. At TH7 I don't care about trophies so there is no reason for me to actually try and set up a base that defends.

    Best thing I could come up with is, when you attack you get a bonus depending on your league, why can't they do this for successful defense? I would make it more than an attack bonus since you have a lot more at stake defending.

    Another idea a bit harsher would be to increase storage capacity. If it held say 5% of the resources, may actually want to protect it. could make it less 1% even has some worth, at the current 1000 who cares.

    Any other ideas ???

    I know and have beenfited from framing bases but it is so advantageous. When's the last time you have used revenge? they pay all that money to have liam talk about revenge and about 90% of the time for me it's a guy with a farming base so when they're not online they have a shield so the revenge is almost pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by familyoftrevor View Post
    . . . woke up with +80 trophies . . .
    To start with you already acknowledged that you were rewarded. You got TROPHIES!!!! Just like the game is designed. If you don't value trophies you should protect your loot instead of your TH.

    That being said, welcome to the forums. In the future please use the search engine prior to starting a new thread. It is far better to add to an existing conversation than it is to start an identical new one. While this is not the most frequent topic it is certainly common. Lots of discussion has been had already that you can re-read much easier than we can re-type.

    Also, please take the time to read the sticky threads about forum rules and ruled out ideas. They may save you some heartache in the future as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by familyoftrevor View Post
    The game is geared towards setting up a farming base until you reach higher levels. Last night I had 5 successful defenses while I was a sleep. So woke up with +80 trophies and minus 1.2 mil in resources. oh and had to rearm all traps too. At TH7 I don't care about trophies so there is no reason for me to actually try and set up a base that defends.

    Best thing I could come up with is, when you attack you get a bonus depending on your league, why can't they do this for successful defense? I would make it more than an attack bonus since you have a lot more at stake defending.

    Another idea a bit harsher would be to increase storage capacity. If it held say 5% of the resources, may actually want to protect it. could make it less 1% even has some worth, at the current 1000 who cares.

    Any other ideas ???

    I know and have beenfited from framing bases but it is so advantageous. When's the last time you have used revenge? they pay all that money to have liam talk about revenge and about 90% of the time for me it's a guy with a farming base so when they're not online they have a shield so the revenge is almost pointless.
    Congrats. You are the few that have a clue as to what is really wrong with CoC, and brave (or foolish) enough to voice what you have discovered. Now prepare to be ridiculed by every person on the forum that has a vested interest in the exposed Town Hall layout.

    The issue isn't new to me. My current shot in the dark on fixing it can be found here (http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...Defence-Revamp)
    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    To start with you already acknowledged that you were rewarded. You got TROPHIES!!!! Just like the game is designed. If you don't value trophies you should protect your loot instead of your TH.

    That being said, welcome to the forums. In the future please use the search engine prior to starting a new thread. It is far better to add to an existing conversation than it is to start an identical new one. While this is not the most frequent topic it is certainly common. Lots of discussion has been had already that you can re-read much easier than we can re-type.

    Also, please take the time to read the sticky threads about forum rules and ruled out ideas. They may save you some heartache in the future as well.
    Yup, nice reward. "Congrats! You Win! You are robbed! Here are Cups! Good luck on growing your base! " ... People don't want the Crackerjack box prize of trophies at thier stage of development, you should know full well that trophies isn't what people want. And you should know by now that common sense says to protect what is labeled as your most important building. Not to be confused with 'game sense' which takes common sense and <censored/deleted 3 paragraphs> it.

    Nothing personal (honest.. as bad as the assumed tone of voice can be for this), but you come off as condescending. That avatar doesn't help with the mental tone of voice either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenJames View Post
    Congrats. You are the few that have a clue as to what is really wrong with CoC, and brave (or foolish) enough to voice what you have discovered. Now prepare to be ridiculed by every person on the forum that has a vested interest in the exposed Town Hall layout.

    The issue isn't new to me. My current shot in the dark on fixing it can be found here (http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...Defence-Revamp)


    Yup, nice reward. "Congrats! You Win! You are robbed! Here are Cups! Good luck on growing your base! " ... People don't want the Crackerjack box prize of trophies at thier stage of development, you should know full well that trophies isn't what people want. And you should know by now that common sense says to protect what is labeled as your most important building. Not to be confused with 'game sense' which takes common sense and <censored/deleted 3 paragraphs> it.

    Nothing personal (honest.. as bad as the assumed tone of voice can be for this), but you come off as condescending. That avatar doesn't help with the mental tone of voice either.
    what do you mean? you can't just stereotype people like that, i want my trophies when i won my defense. If i have to choose between trophies or bonus loot, i would prefer my trophies. and i am sure many others thinks the same as well.

    this has been discussed many many times and the conclusion is that no player should be rewarded (bonus loot) for being passive (defense), since the player need not to be online when defending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenJames View Post
    . . . you should know full well that trophies isn't what people want. And you should know by now that common sense says to protect what is labeled as your most important building. . .
    Warren, you know from our conversations in the past that what I was saying there was overflowing with sarcasm. The only value my post had was what the OP needed. Direction to the search field so he can find all of his answers and a conversation to contribute to. If you have a link you can be even more helpful than I was, but that is the only thing this thread is good for. Linking back to an existing one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincentboy View Post
    what do you mean? you can't just stereotype people like that, i want my trophies when i won my defense. If i have to choose between trophies or bonus loot, i would prefer my trophies. and i am sure many others thinks the same as well.

    this has been discussed many many times and the conclusion is that no player should be rewarded (bonus loot) for being passive (defense), since the player need not to be online when defending.
    Take a joke... Jeeze.. You act like you haven't been satired before. Even Cpt. Obvious could tell by reading it out loud, with the emotes as tone of voice ques, at how played up that was.

    And you obviously haven't read my recent stuff I have for how to fix the overly punitive, and neglected gameplay aspect of defense.
    (Spoiler: No mention of wining loot from winning )
    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    Warren, you know from our conversations in the past that what I was saying there was overflowing with sarcasm. The only value my post had was what the OP needed. Direction to the search field so he can find all of his answers and a conversation to contribute to. If you have a link you can be even more helpful than I was, but that is the only thing this thread is good for. Linking back to an existing one.
    Sorry. But I guess it proves the point that sarcasm can be hard to pull off. Even with tone of voice ques, it can be missed. In text, even more so. That's one reason why I use emotes, italicized text, blod text, ellipsis, and whatnot to give it the feel of natural, converational, speech.

    Of course, that gets missed as well to my annoyance, and people jump to wrong conclusions. (still bitter about a few certain threads with rampant miscommunication)
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    I agree with the OP that there should be a defensive league win bonus.

    As others have said this idea has been mentioned before and is listed as under consideration, under league related suggestions the following thread http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...rum-guidelines

    Hopefully it does gets added in the future.

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    I still stand by my defence suggestions, because I've since realized how awkward and counter intuitive it is to get loot for a defence win. It makes the 'magical materializing money' issue even worse, a puts it to an absurd situation.

    Check out the link I posted. Could use the feedback.

    No really! Things just get ignored! I need some good feedback to know what direction to take things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenJames View Post
    Take a joke... Jeeze.. You act like you haven't been satired before. Even Cpt. Obvious could tell by reading it out loud, with the emotes as tone of voice ques, at how played up that was.

    And you obviously haven't read my recent stuff I have for how to fix the overly punitive, and neglected gameplay aspect of defense.
    (Spoiler: No mention of wining loot from winning )
    i don't quite understand what you are talking about, you don't need to talk around, i am just stating the fact that there are people out there that prefer trophies over loot for their defense win. (including me)

    you obviously don't understand how hard it is to keep your trophy count in master and champion league. trophy from defense win is a huge bonus for me. i don't need loot from it, trophy is fine enough.

    i can earn loot anytime by raiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenJames View Post
    I still stand by my defence suggestions, because I've since realized how awkward and counter intuitive it is to get loot for a defence win. It makes the 'magical materializing money' issue even worse, a puts it to an absurd situation.

    Check out the link I posted. Could use the feedback.

    No really! Things just get ignored! I need some good feedback to know what direction to take things.
    Do you realize how hard it is to get a defend up in masters and champion league? These are the only leagues IMO where the league win bonus is actually large enough to make a difference. Once you start having to repair max traps and re-arm max xbows and infernos you will change your mind.

    I dont understand why anyone would be against putting more loot into the economy.

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