Babysitting your game? Wait, I didn't sign up for this?!

[WarrenJames]

For a casual game (at least I've been told a few times and what I understood), there are some things that are hardly casual about it.

• You can't hope to switch mobile device tasks away from the CoC app for more than 3-5 mins without getting attacked when gathering loot, but otherwise, like at night sometimes, it takes 2-3 hours or more before someone attacks.
• Revenge attacks requires you to constantly check, recheck, and check again every other time you think about it to catch an open target, and then attack within 1 to 45 mins before the window closes. So there is realistically no time to make an army after the opportunity opens up, unless you want to Barcher them.
• Have to poke in more than a few times every few hours and see who needs more stuff for war or just raiding so you can meet those donation amounts the leader wants.

Am I missing anything? I know I'm missing more than a few other issues...

Again I got raided because I misjudged my micro-shield grace period for going 'off line' (when in actuality, I just switched apps and it load shed automatically as per CoC's program) and got a notice I was being attacked moments before I was going to poke back in. More than a few times I 'log on' just in time to only to see my base being eyed over in the scout view, just before it either gets attacked, or passed over by a raider. Even logged in after only 3 seconds has passed during the other guy's scout viewing!

I don't know how other people manage! Do active people spend as much time, and as much dedication, to keeping thier app up and babysitting thier log on as much as I do, or even more so (and have just as much of, or less of, a life as I do)? Yes, it finally dawns on me after being TH8 (playing since Mid Oct) that to be successful and rewarded with a constantly growing base with lots of loot, you have to have very little of a real life to speak of to put that much effort into this game.

What about the teenagers playing this? Even I had homework and a social life to attend to back then, before graduating and a mediocre job and depression killed much of the finer things in life for me. How the heck are they expected to have fun with time sensitive 'stuff' like that happening in-game, an addictive game at that? And no, you can't expect them to just gem the problems away. Not all of it can be, nor will most want to spend that much money, let alone for that long.

Granted, this is a popular, top grossing game, that got lucky and put Supercell on the map, able to even make a frick'n Superbowl ad for (link of ad in my signature BTW), but this game could use some major tweaks in gameplay to remove the stress in playing. More people would feel like staying, which means more people would feel like spending real money for gems.

(Sorry for the ranting tone. Always get annoyed being on the wrong side of a well deployed Archer Queen.)

[btcc1721]

For a casual game (at least I've been told a few times and what I understood), there are some things that are hardly casual about it.

• You can't hope to switch mobile device tasks away from the CoC app for more than 3-5 mins without getting attacked when gathering loot, but otherwise, like at night sometimes, it takes 2-3 hours or more before someone attacks. Turn off notifications, otherwise I think i'm missing your point
• Revenge attacks requires you to constantly check, recheck, and check again every other time you think about it to catch an open target, and then attack within 1 to 45 mins before the window closes. So there is realistically no time to make an army after the opportunity opens up, unless you want to Barcher them. Revenge is just luck who is free and when. There is no way round it.
• Have to poke in more than a few times every few hours and see who needs more stuff for war or just raiding so you can meet those donation amounts the leader wants. Go to another clan, there are thousands of clans out there who are chill and are designed for casual palyers

Am I missing anything? I know I'm missing more than a few other issues... I just think there are multiple ways you can play it, it's a game! Play it how you like and enjoy it, I do.

Again I got raided because I misjudged my micro-shield grace period for going 'off line' (when in actuality, I just switched apps and it load shed automatically as per CoC's program) and got a notice I was being attacked moments before I was going to poke back in. More than a few times I 'log on' just in time to only to see my base being eyed over in the scout view, just before it either gets attacked, or passed over by a raider. Even logged in after only 3 seconds has passed during the other guy's scout viewing! What league are you in? The more recent people to log off are always near the multiplayer search. It would not happen in 3 seconds. But hey, when you have no shield and you're off clash, you're fair game for attack

I don't know how other people manage! Do active people spend as much time, and as much dedication, to keeping thier app up and babysitting thier log on as much as I do, or even more so (and have just as much of, or less of, a life as I do)? Yes, it finally dawns on me after being TH8 (playing since Mid Oct) that to be successful and rewarded with a constantly growing base with lots of loot, you have to have very little of a real life to speak of to put that much effort into this game. You seem to be missing the point. I'm mid-TH8 having played since Feb last year. I still enjoy it a lot and while I max out at every TH, I still have a life. (I even have a rushed second account at TH7). You will be the best, yes, if you play hardcore, but don't lose sight of the fact, it's a game! Play it how you want.

What about the teenagers playing this? Even I had homework and a social life to attend to back then, before graduating and a mediocre job and depression killed much of the finer things in life for me. How the heck are they expected to have fun with time sensitive 'stuff' like that happening in-game, an addictive game at that? And no, you can't expect them to just gem the problems away. Not all of it can be, nor will most want to spend that much money, let alone for that long. Managing time, big raiding sessions then work, I know I could fit it in.

Granted, this is a popular, top grossing game, that got lucky and put Supercell on the map, able to even make a frick'n Superbowl ad for (link of ad in my signature BTW), but this game could use some major tweaks in gameplay to remove the stress in playing. More people would feel like staying, which means more people would feel like spending real money for gems. I genuinely think you're taking it too seriously. It's a real time MMORPG and that's why it's constant. Relax, plan ahead a bit, you'll be surprised how much time that saves.

(Sorry for the ranting tone. Always get annoyed being on the wrong side of a well deployed Archer Queen.)

Oh, and BTW, this is in the wrong part of the forum

[Quake]

Babysitting and this game is one of tha main reasons for building big structures. Everybody wants big loot of yours. I dont turn off the game and babysit them till i reach 8 mil from 5-6 mil. Your beginning to be very atractive for the players from 5 mil. There is no other choice..

[rwelshjr]

Just quit your job, get a divorce, cede custody of your kids to your spouse, and sign up for food stamps. problem solved.


Look at my sig. That girl has it figured out.

[WarrenJames]

Oh, and BTW, this is in the wrong part of the forum

Thanks for making 95% of your replys harder to quote

In order of your replies to your in-quote comments.

You did miss my point... much of it. I don't know why you think turning off notification would help me not get attacked. Point was how fast you get attacked when you look away for a moment. Re-read what I said. Could have sworn I typed things in English.

Revenge is not luck. It is being on when the other guy is done with thier usual time of being active. Since I'm on often during the entire day and night, I can catch people when they are open, farming base or not. And knowing I can, I get an army ready, or zap ready. But that's not the point. Point is, no one else is really on that much, besides guys like me with too much time on thier hands. How is that fair, and how can you call that playing casually? Actually read the comment. Don't assume I'm ranting about my own issues.

I'm already in a clan that is 'more caual' than I am. I am pointing out a problem that others have. I am the most giving person in the clan, giving dragons half the time, getting 3-3.5k points or more in donations. Second and third place people are at 1k, with the rest being fairly pathetic in comparison. You know what people say when you assume, right?

You seem to be missing my point that I'm not ranting about my own issues; which really if you read, what issues of mine am I ranting about? I am using myself as the exception that proves the point!

I'm point out gameplay issues, but haven't gotten to any ideas yet for a fix. Was actually rushed for time, and just wanted to get this out there. Being addressed as if these problems were my problems was not what I was expecting, since after all, I could have sworn I wrote in clear English. Did I make another dyslexic mistake? Where did I typo at? What made you think I was ranting for myself?

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And no, I might as well shoot myself if I give up on trying to live and go the social welfare route. BTW, can't divorce. No one there to divorce, let alone any kids. (wouldn't be here if I had anything like that)

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Ha! 5mill? I'm a TH8! You get over one million of gold or Elixir, or 15,000 Dark Elixir, you are good enough for TH9s to raid (OK, maybe not 1mill, but 2+ yeah). I wish I could hold 4 million of anything without being attacked. Thought someone like you knew how life was like as an early stage TH8.

[Drackos]

Just quit your job, get a divorce, cede custody of your kids to your spouse, and sign up for food stamps. problem solved.


Look at my sig. That girl has it figured out.

Lol

yeah don't rant in the ifr man.

I read no SOLID suggestion. Saying there needs to be tweaks isn't a suggestion. It's like saying the game needs more heros. But not say what. You feel me?

[WarrenJames]

Lol

yeah don't rant in the ifr man.

I read no SOLID suggestion. Saying there needs to be tweaks isn't a suggestion. It's like saying the game needs more heros. But not say what. You feel me?

Actually, was hoping others would say, "Yeah, I had <personal example> and it really bugs me." and then after some replies could think of how to go about fixing it. Instead I seem to speak Greek while typing in English, and get totaly the wrong effect intended. 'Everyone' (not technically everyone) assumes it is all about my problems, or how I want to wreck thier style of play.

Honestly, the much of those rants are indirectly answered in another thread or two I've made, but nobody really reads those threads.

[webbie]

Your points

• Sometimes you can't do anything else on your device without getting raided, other times it takes hours.
  
  • True its risky every time you log out, often I will boost so I can raid continuously with no downtime
  
  
• You can't cook specific armies and revenge someone
  
  • True, most people ignore revenge completely or they will check the revenge attacks when they have a bigger army cooked. I would never attempt to cook an army for a specific revenge target
  
  
• You have to constantly check online to see if people need donations to meet requirements
  
  • This depends on your clan, join a clan that has donation requirements you can meet (or none at all), if you are out donating everyone by at least 5x you are probably in the wrong clan. Our clan its usually wasted logging on to see if anyone needs donations since they are all filled within a couple minutes
  
  
• Do people spend that much time babysitting
  
  • Yes many do, watching a show tap the screen every 4-5minutes, raid every 20
  
  
• How do teenagers manage?
  
  • Adults have work, teenagers have school/homework I don't really see the difference. They can check in between classes, they can raid during homework or downtime in the evening
  
  
• Extra point for the comment of time sensitive stuff
  
  • The only thing that is really time sensitive is that in wars you have 2 attacks to do in 24h everything else is determined by how you want to play and what clan you are in. Never want to attack? You can sit somewhere log in 2 times a day and collect from mines/pumps build what you can there you go, Want to break the all time season attack record? Play non stop from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to bed for 2 weeks straight. The game is what you make it, many people here play long stretches and lament the fact that they can now only play 2-4 hours a day.

[btcc1721]

Your points

• Sometimes you can't do anything else on your device without getting raided, other times it takes hours.
  
  • True its risky every time you log out, often I will boost so I can raid continuously with no downtime
  
  
• You can't cook specific armies and revenge someone
  
  • True, most people ignore revenge completely or they will check the revenge attacks when they have a bigger army cooked. I would never attempt to cook an army for a specific revenge target
  
  
• You have to constantly check online to see if people need donations to meet requirements
  
  • This depends on your clan, join a clan that has donation requirements you can meet (or none at all), if you are out donating everyone by at least 5x you are probably in the wrong clan. Our clan its usually wasted logging on to see if anyone needs donations since they are all filled within a couple minutes
  
  
• Do people spend that much time babysitting
  
  • Yes many do, watching a show tap the screen every 4-5minutes, raid every 20
  
  
• How do teenagers manage?
  
  • Adults have work, teenagers have school/homework I don't really see the difference. They can check in between classes, they can raid during homework or downtime in the evening
  
  
• Extra point for the comment of time sensitive stuff
  
  • The only thing that is really time sensitive is that in wars you have 2 attacks to do in 24h everything else is determined by how you want to play and what clan you are in. Never want to attack? You can sit somewhere log in 2 times a day and collect from mines/pumps build what you can there you go, Want to break the all time season attack record? Play non stop from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to bed for 2 weeks straight. The game is what you make it, many people here play long stretches and lament the fact that they can now only play 2-4 hours a day.

At least someone understands.

[ChiefNero]

For a casual game (at least I've been told a few times and what I understood), there are some things that are hardly casual about it.

• You can't hope to switch mobile device tasks away from the CoC app for more than 3-5 mins without getting attacked when gathering loot, but otherwise, like at night sometimes, it takes 2-3 hours or more before someone attacks.
• Revenge attacks requires you to constantly check, recheck, and check again every other time you think about it to catch an open target, and then attack within 1 to 45 mins before the window closes. So there is realistically no time to make an army after the opportunity opens up, unless you want to Barcher them.
• Have to poke in more than a few times every few hours and see who needs more stuff for war or just raiding so you can meet those donation amounts the leader wants.

Am I missing anything? I know I'm missing more than a few other issues...

Again I got raided because I misjudged my micro-shield grace period for going 'off line' (when in actuality, I just switched apps and it load shed automatically as per CoC's program) and got a notice I was being attacked moments before I was going to poke back in. More than a few times I 'log on' just in time to only to see my base being eyed over in the scout view, just before it either gets attacked, or passed over by a raider. Even logged in after only 3 seconds has passed during the other guy's scout viewing!

I don't know how other people manage! Do active people spend as much time, and as much dedication, to keeping thier app up and babysitting thier log on as much as I do, or even more so (and have just as much of, or less of, a life as I do)? Yes, it finally dawns on me after being TH8 (playing since Mid Oct) that to be successful and rewarded with a constantly growing base with lots of loot, you have to have very little of a real life to speak of to put that much effort into this game.

What about the teenagers playing this? Even I had homework and a social life to attend to back then, before graduating and a mediocre job and depression killed much of the finer things in life for me. How the heck are they expected to have fun with time sensitive 'stuff' like that happening in-game, an addictive game at that? And no, you can't expect them to just gem the problems away. Not all of it can be, nor will most want to spend that much money, let alone for that long.

Granted, this is a popular, top grossing game, that got lucky and put Supercell on the map, able to even make a frick'n Superbowl ad for (link of ad in my signature BTW), but this game could use some major tweaks in gameplay to remove the stress in playing. More people would feel like staying, which means more people would feel like spending real money for gems.

(Sorry for the ranting tone. Always get annoyed being on the wrong side of a well deployed Archer Queen.)

I'm a teen, but I only play CoC and Hay Day combined for about 2-3 hours max per day.. Usually just around an hour though. I haven't had to many problems with being attacked tbh.. And I'm a semi maxing TH7... But I agree with most of what you said nevertheless.