Penalty for leaving during war

[ironagedave]

These are poorly thought out ideas they should absolutely not do.

Here are the innocent people it would hurt... (This is over 3/4 of all guys that step out during war)

• Guys traveling to their feeder clan.
• Guys going to request & leave clan to get war troops
• Guys going to visit a friend but plans to come back when his attack time comes.
• Guys going to give troops to a partner clan they have a mutual support agreement.

Here are who it would not would not hurt (This is a minority)

• Hoppers. They can just scam the system to avoid the penalty.

Ways to scam the system are

• Do 2 quick attacks of one archer each to satisfy the requirement
• Troll the clan (doing damage to it) until they get kicked.

I see other posters have already given very good advice on how to avoid having the hopper problem in the first place so instead of repeating them I will refer you to their posts on he previous pages. If a clan or leader lacks the will to do those things then the consequences of not doing them are really his own fault more than the hopper's.

A possibility is that the leader or co-leader can decide whether to enforce the penalty or not. That would probably rule out the "innocent" leavers.
I am not saying I agree with the op but thought I would throw that in the discussion.

Personally, for any new clan member we would not allow directly into the next clan war until they are settled and that both sides are happy and sure of each other.

[rwelshjr]

A possibility is that the leader or co-leader can decide whether to enforce the penalty or not. That would probably rule out the "innocent" leavers.
I am not saying I agree with the op but thought I would throw that in the discussion. .

Its a fair suggestion and I considered it before typing my post. But too often I think such power would get abused by the 'nasty/bratty, drunk with power" type. Also, if the leadership is not agreeing the wishes of the guy that wants to take off he is going to go for the troll techniques. I understand that this plan allows for the leader to tell him to chill out or he will kick with punishments but situations going into that mode never work out.

Also, the ability to kick with punishments is too much power for a leader to have IMHO. ("You did not praise my one star attack effusively enough therefore I kick you with punishments", or "give me a pekka or I will kick you with punishments", or to quote the SC saying - "give me crab claws or I will...."). The problem with a lot of things is that SC has to consider how they would be used in everyone's hands, and that some leaders are bad news that just shouldn't be there, but still are.

Personally, for any new clan member we would not allow directly into the next clan war until they are settled and that both sides are happy and sure of each other.

I totally agree that this is what is truly the right solution. It's not foolproof. But to say its 98-99% effective is not an exaggeration. This is in fact what the effective leader does. he is preventing his clan from having the problem in the first place rather than just getting mad after.

[Slaskio]

OP voiced his comments here:

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ing-during-war

[ironagedave]

Also, the ability to kick with punishments is too much power for a leader to have IMHO. ("You did not praise my one star attack effusively enough therefore I kick you with punishments", or "give me a pekka or I will kick you with punishments", or to quote the SC saying - "give me crab claws or I will...."). The problem with a lot of things is that SC has to consider how they would be used in everyone's hands, and that some leaders are bad news that just shouldn't be there, but still are.

Woahah yes that would be insane to kick and instill punishment as well - what devious minds - I wonder if they could distinguish between those who are kicked and those who leave on their own accord, but by then it would probably be too much for supercell to bother with I guess.

[chrispeterson]

I literally had 4 people leave during the last war...but we won so yea lol

[rwelshjr]

OP voiced his comments here:

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ing-during-war

yeah, he actually posted his suggestion twice. Double his pleasure double his fun with a double-meant double-meant double-meant run...

[H0TBOYBUP]

little bit too extreme for me. This is part of the game... What if during a war you were bullied? You wouldn't be able to leave for fear of being clanless. Or, there is a dispute between a co-leader and elder... If both are at fault, the co-leader can still ban the elder from joining a clan for a week... That's just ridiculous. Clan members should not be able to regulate what goes on outside their clan. Personally, my clan just doesn't accept anyone who is eneligible for war... If he did it once, he could do it again.

players should not be allowed to leave once actively in. A war

[kdrakakis]

I just read the following idea on the forum today: players who participate in a war should pay a deposit to do so (some amount of gold and/or elixir and/or de). Once they carry out both of their attacks in the war, they get their deposit back; otherwise, if they fail to carry out both of their attacks, the deposit gets equally split across the clan members who did carry out both of their attacks.

I think this is a brilliant idea! What do you think?

[napileon]

sometimes members must go but then come back
well i think your third point is good and i might think of an extra difficulty for the player to leave unless a Co-leader(or leader) allow him to leave if he's IN the war that would let his fate between the hands of his leaders and could make him think before getting into a war