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    ideas on fixing trophy dropping

    i am currently a mid leveled town hall 8 and for the last week or so i have been trying to save up dark elixir to upgrade my golems but every time i log off the game i get face rolled by th9's and th10's and i keep losing my dark elixir. i have rearranged my base multiple times and it does not matter what setup i use. any th9 or 10 just flat destroys my base and loots all of my dark elixir. yesterday i was attacked by a FULLY LEVELED th10. how am i suppose to defend against that?

    the fix:

    change the match making so that th9' and th10's can not just drop trophies and farm off of lower level bases. adjust the setup so that you can only attack town halls that are your level or higher so that dropping from masters down to gold 1 does not guarantee easy loot on people that do not pay to win or who do not have as much time to play. this also makes ladder more competitive because you can only climb by making successful attacks against bases that are your level or higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topher1 View Post
    i am currently a mid leveled town hall 8 and for the last week or so i have been trying to save up dark elixir to upgrade my golems but every time i log off the game i get face rolled by th9's and th10's and i keep losing my dark elixir. i have rearranged my base multiple times and it does not matter what setup i use. any th9 or 10 just flat destroys my base and loots all of my dark elixir. yesterday i was attacked by a FULLY LEVELED th10. how am i suppose to defend against that?

    the fix:

    change the match making so that th9' and th10's can not just drop trophies and farm off of lower level bases. adjust the setup so that you can only attack town halls that are your level or higher so that dropping from masters down to gold 1 does not guarantee easy loot on people that do not pay to win or who do not have as much time to play. this also makes ladder more competitive because you can only climb by making successful attacks against bases that are your level or higher.
    People are going to come here (or ignore you) to rant and shout that you're being a crybaby for losing dark elixir.

    But you have a point. I'm pretty sure trophy dropping was Never intended to be good for anyone. Since sooo many people farm by dropping trophies (including me), SC can't implement a rigid way to eliminate trophy-dropping-leaving-town-hall-outside-farming.

    Your solution would not be healthy for the severs because suppose you are a town hall 10 playing legitimately (trophies are not lost intentionally). You go on a cruise and come back. You are now at 1200 trophies (for some reason). It would take hours to find another town hall 10 in that range and won't help with the lag issues.

    An alternative solution that I saw two months ago is to increase the amount of gold used when nesting as you reach leagues unworthy of your tonw hall. According to a formula I created, it would take 6000 gold to click next once in Bronze if you were town hall 10. (but only 170 in Champion). By applying this type of discouragement, I think we can slowly move people out without staining too much and with minimal complaint (other than the outrageous costs that current sub200 th10s will face as they go back up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldRange View Post
    People are going to come here (or ignore you) to rant and shout that you're being a crybaby for losing dark elixir.

    But you have a point. I'm pretty sure trophy dropping was Never intended to be good for anyone. Since sooo many people farm by dropping trophies (including me), SC can't implement a rigid way to eliminate trophy-dropping-leaving-town-hall-outside-farming.

    Your solution would not be healthy for the severs because suppose you are a town hall 10 playing legitimately (trophies are not lost intentionally). You go on a cruise and come back. You are now at 1200 trophies (for some reason). It would take hours to find another town hall 10 in that range and won't help with the lag issues.

    An alternative solution that I saw two months ago is to increase the amount of gold used when nesting as you reach leagues unworthy of your tonw hall. According to a formula I created, it would take 6000 gold to click next once in Bronze if you were town hall 10. (but only 170 in Champion). By applying this type of discouragement, I think we can slowly move people out without staining too much and with minimal complaint (other than the outrageous costs that current sub200 th10s will face as they go back up)

    1. i am aware that many people will blow off my rant about losing dark elixir because in about 30 days i will be th9 and my entire rant will not even matter but trophy dropping is still a problem

    2. your reason for why my idea would not work is ridiculous lol. this is 2015 most cruises going anywhere will have access to internet at some point during there trip. also, assuming you are attacked twice a day ( getting a 12 hour shield each time) and you lost 20 trophies per attack you would lose 40 trophies a day. after 20 days you would lose 800 trophies but, this is assuming that you lost every time. after dropping two whole leagues you would plateau somewhere and start winning defends. realistically if you did go on this trip even if it lasted half a year AND you did not have access to internet for the entire 6 months you would still return to your game somewhere between 1800 and 2k trophies which is easily high enough for you to find other th10's and regain your ranking. I'm not saying that my idea is flawless in fact i am sure there is a major flaw that i can not see because i am still really jaded from losing my last couple of defends but your reason for why it would not work is so far fetched i don't even see how you came up with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topher1 View Post
    i am currently a mid leveled town hall 8 and for the last week or so i have been trying to save up dark elixir to upgrade my golems but every time i log off the game i get face rolled by th9's and th10's and i keep losing my dark elixir. i have rearranged my base multiple times and it does not matter what setup i use. any th9 or 10 just flat destroys my base and loots all of my dark elixir. yesterday i was attacked by a FULLY LEVELED th10. how am i suppose to defend against that?

    the fix:

    change the match making so that th9' and th10's can not just drop trophies and farm off of lower level bases. adjust the setup so that you can only attack town halls that are your level or higher so that dropping from masters down to gold 1 does not guarantee easy loot on people that do not pay to win or who do not have as much time to play. this also makes ladder more competitive because you can only climb by making successful attacks against bases that are your level or higher.
    TBH, DE zapping is a consequence of guys pushing down and intended to discourage there being too much of what you are complaining about. these same guys pushed down want to eliminate DE zapping so that you can't do anything back at them at all. And lets face it, a zap does not hurt nearly as much as a raid even though they all say its worse. The best thing you can do for your cause is tell all the anti zapper guys that they are wrong to try to eliminate the only consequence there is to guys pushing down to beat up on weaker bases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topher1 View Post
    i am currently a mid leveled town hall 8 and for the last week or so i have been trying to save up dark elixir to upgrade my golems but every time i log off the game i get face rolled by th9's and th10's and i keep losing my dark elixir. i have rearranged my base multiple times and it does not matter what setup i use. any th9 or 10 just flat destroys my base and loots all of my dark elixir. yesterday i was attacked by a FULLY LEVELED th10. how am i suppose to defend against that?

    the fix:

    change the match making so that th9' and th10's can not just drop trophies and farm off of lower level bases. adjust the setup so that you can only attack town halls that are your level or higher so that dropping from masters down to gold 1 does not guarantee easy loot on people that do not pay to win or who do not have as much time to play. this also makes ladder more competitive because you can only climb by making successful attacks against bases that are your level or higher.
    that limits gameplay...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwelshjr View Post
    TBH, DE zapping is a consequence of guys pushing down and intended to discourage there being too much of what you are complaining about. these same guys pushed down want to eliminate DE zapping so that you can't do anything back at them at all. And lets face it, a zap does not hurt nearly as much as a raid even though they all say its worse. The best thing you can do for your cause is tell all the anti zapper guys that they are wrong to try to eliminate the only consequence there is to guys pushing down to beat up on weaker bases.
    either i do not fully understand what you are talking about or you did not read my whole post but my rant about losing dark elixir was not in reference to getting zapped by a couple of shock spells. the last three times i was raided my base was 90% destroyed or higher. I'll get over the DE loss just like everyone else. the reason i am here is because i disagree with being attacked by th9's and 10's with no hope of defending against it. There needs to be more regulation of higher level bases attacking lower level bases.

    ps. if i have completely misunderstood what you were trying to say can you please explain to this forum noob what you mean when you say ZAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomarx3me View Post
    that limits gameplay...

    IMO it promotes gameplay because it requires you to attack someone who is much closer to your level rather then let someone take advantage of a guy that has not played as long as you.

    if you are going to say or imply that my idea is bad then give examples or insight as to why. don't just brush it off with a three word comment without some sort of explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topher1 View Post
    IMO it promotes gameplay because it requires you to attack someone who is much closer to your level rather then let someone take advantage of a guy that has not played as long as you.

    if you are going to say or imply that my idea is bad then give examples or insight as to why. don't just brush it off with a three word comment without some sort of explanation.
    it promotes activity, yes

    I think I used the wrong term, what I meant by gameplay is "variety"

    for example in an MMORPG, I like playing long range, so I choose Mage or archer
    but others like melee, so they choose swordie or brawler

    in CoC's sense, its like (with trophies in mind):
    "I'd like to prey on weaker THs and dead bases at lower leagues, I guess I'll drop to 1k trophies..."

    or

    "I'd like to push hard and have the highest cups in the world, I'll push to champions!"

    making higher lvl TH be bound to higher leagues limits their options


    btw, I didn't say your idea is bad
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    the problem here is rusher and theres a lot of them they will suffer a lot from this and might quit and SC dont want that

    by the way did u attack a th 7 before??? if yes then u have no right to complain if no then congrats because ur the first one who do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by useless View Post
    the problem here is rusher and theres a lot of them they will suffer a lot from this and might quit and SC dont want that

    by the way did u attack a th 7 before??? if yes then u have no right to complain if no then congrats because ur the first one who do that
    oh yes, forgot about this one
    maxed out TH9, minus the heroes
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