If you are TH7, you shouldn't be for very long. TH8 takes a little while and you'll be done with this. Basically, just upgrade your stuff and this is no longer going to be an issue for you.
If you are TH7, you shouldn't be for very long. TH8 takes a little while and you'll be done with this. Basically, just upgrade your stuff and this is no longer going to be an issue for you.
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Originally Posted by Nitecrawller
If you only unlock one barracks then yeah it could take that long, but that's just stupid. Our th7s do not use mass dragons unless they have sooooo much elixer, which happens late in the game, and are seriously short on scouting time. But the th7 they hit are good for around 200 to 250 thousand each minimum. Most times it's closer to 300. So still not profitable, but war is not about profit or farming.
as for not knowing how to use them .......it takes zero skill to zap and drop on a th7. Just a tiny bit more forethought on up to a mid level 8, but that's still marginal in my experience.
We aren't big dragon users. We do use them, but in conjunction with our other troops. We rarely loose and we detest dragon spamming. So nope your assessment isn't one size fits all.
Btw we are about to conclude yet another win against a dragon spamming clan. They don't have the attacks left to catch us.
Fortunately TH7 does not take very long so it will only be a matter of a few weeks for your clan of mainly town hall 7s and 8s to be a clan of mainly town hall 8s and 9s at which point mass dragon attacks will be something you look forward to since they will perform so poorly against your base.
The last attack against my TH9 base was mass dragons. I have 3 level 6 air defenses (which are the max level for TH8) and a level 2 air defense. The attack was a 71% 1 star attack. Even though I have completely neglected my air defenses at TH9 (having upgraded none of my level 6 air defenses from where they were at TH8 and only upgrading the new air defense to level 2) and my CC had no troops in it, the mass dragon attack was still only 1 star. This is normal when mass dragons are used against well developed TH8 bases and low TH9 bases. Mass dragons truly won't be a problem for your clan for long.
If what you are saying is true then the war loot might not be the same for every th7...maybe you dont have a lot of th8s and th9s in your clan(just guessing)...coz i could show you my war log and the top most th7 only gave 58.5k war loot.
Your th7s dont use mass drags...no one is forcing anybody...like i said its difficult to get th7s to do drag atks
Yes i agree war is not about farming or profit...thats what people complaining about drag atks generally want it to be
I did not write as an advocate of all drag atks...merely realise the amount of time and resources that go into it.....yes it does take skill to attack with drags - (th8 and up with good layouts)...and also u cant close ur eyes and atk th7s
You just won a war against a drag spamming clan proves that drag attacks require skill
The OP was against drag attacks in war and was pointing out how powerful they are.
But you just proved that they are not all that powerful and that they require skill to do them. Otherwise no one would ever win a war against drag spammers
Last edited by Nitecrawller; March 2nd, 2015 at 12:13 AM.
I've never seen a TH7 not 3-starred by mass dragon, and 3x lightning. Never. The attacker can disconnect after dropping the dragons, it's that easy...
However many people are reluctant to do that, because if the clan loose it's such a big loss...
It's much more difficult against a TH8... I can often get 3 stars, but it's certainly not a guarantee, it can become 2 stars very quickly. And some clanmates often get just one...
With a good design, I usually concede only one star against dragons and balloons.
Against a TH9, I've seen some 2 stars, but most attack fails and give 1 star (or nothing).
like I've only been here for 5 days. Just long enough to gem my lab and then upgrade my loons to 4 and get rage spells. I attacked another th7 in war. He had both teslas. I don't. His air defenses were both level 4. I have one at 4 and 1 at 2. He attacked me with all dragons. 100%. I used ballonion, but got the minions from a mate. I got 100%. My loot bonus off him was 250000 gold and elixer and 560 de. I have never gotten the low loot you are talking about even when I was a th4. I think you are seeing a loot penalty that pertains to a higher level attacking low, because unless those th7s are so poorly developed that they are more th3 than th7 there is no way your amount accurately reflects true loot bonuses for a th7 attacking another th7.
Well yes you are right on the war loot front....i didnt know war loot is different for different members..my bad
we won because their low levels couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag with holes and a map. All their 7s and 8s dragon spammed for easy 3 stars and reattacked for same, but they left th5 and 6s to their th6s that haven't learnt the art of lure. They wasted all their upper attacks throwing dragons everywhere and then lost because our little guys beat the snot out of them for three stars each.
I beg to differ about the ease of dragon spamming. My oldest son and my youngest have both just dropped dragons anywhere on the map and 3 starred. These were not terrible or low leveled bases either. They are that over powered. Our decision to not mass dragon has zero to do with cost and more to do with figuring out how to actually take a base apart. Yes dragons can do the job.....easily, but it's more about succeeding WITH some skill and developing an eye for base weaknesses that will help later on. Since we win almost all our wars I would venture were are doing just fine with our strategy. Our clan has zero th9. We prefer it that way.
i disagreed majorly with your comment concerning those that complained about dragon use. We don't like the spamming, but we do know how to use them. As stated your assessments were erroneous. I see another poster has corrected you on the loot bonus and others as to ease of dragon usage, so I'll just leave it there.
Sure against TH7 up to mid TH8, dragons rule. However, this is a failed proposition against advanced TH8 and higher, resulting in mostly 2-stars, rarely 3-stars.
Even against those Th7 to mid TH8, it is not a 3-star guarantee. Sure, for skilled attackers, it should be a no brainer. However, i have seen my fair share of failed dragons attacks on those 'easy' bases.
I thought ninjas were supposed to have a fully functional brain.
edit: the OPs premise is just overwhelmingly wrong. Even hogs at th7 are stronger than dragons. Oh no! Did I just give the game aids?
Last edited by Drewdown; March 2nd, 2015 at 03:33 AM.
