Thank you TH 8s

[Xitra]

Ask yourself, which is easier to raid:

1. A TH8 with level 8 walls and maxed TH8 defenses.
2. A TH9 with level 7 walls and maxed TH8 defenses, plus maxed TH9 X-Bows, Wizard Towers, Hidden Teslas, and mortars? Oh, and an Archer Queen

Gold costs are the same.

Now ask yourself what is easier and faster to farm. A couple of levels for some defenses or a level for 250 walls at th9

You're one of the ones that taunted TH9's for having level 7 walls, so I'm just trying to clarify which is easier for you to attack. I understand that the loot penalty makes the TH9 more attractive to loot in the first place, but that wasn't the question. Assume the TH8 just upgraded to TH9, so loot penalty isn't the issue.

Which is an easier target? TH9 with level 8 walls and maxed TH8 defenses? Or TH9 with level 7 walls and maxed x-bows, teslas, WT's, and mortars? Since you seem to think that level 7 walls are so weak, I really am curious which you think is easier to attack.

[Keeper75]

Ask yourself, which is easier to raid:

1. A TH8 with level 8 walls and maxed TH8 defenses.
2. A TH9 with level 7 walls and maxed TH8 defenses, plus maxed TH9 X-Bows, Wizard Towers, Hidden Teslas, and mortars? Oh, and an Archer Queen

Gold costs are the same.

Hell, if we go with your way of thinking why not go all the way in!

what's easier to raid:

1. A maxed TH8 with level 8 walls and maxed TH8 defenses
2. A maxed TH10 with all maxed TH8 defenses, plus maxed infernos, maxed TH10 X-Bows, Wizard Towers, Hidden Teslas and mortars...oh..why not also max heros, max troops,etc,etc...


Do you see that your comparing doesn't make any sense at all?

Don't you see that there's a variable missing in your "equation"?

it's called....time!


So, that comparison is not possible...unless that maxed th8 with maxed level 8 walls stopped playing.

fyi, coincidence or not, me and another clan member did exactly what you said: he went to th9 at the end of last September with level 7 walls, i went to Th9 at start of November with level 8 walls...you know what? i just got moved to 2nd place in our CWs 3 days ago (the spot where he was)...how? simple...he finished his defenses slightly earlier, but now, he's stuck with level 7 walls and having an hard time farming for them with just gold. Since walls do put strength in CWs, and since mine are better then his, i'm now stronger and at a higher clan war position then him now.

Anyway, the time that i spent on walls is now recovered, because it was easy to farm resources when i was TH8...something that it's not so easy to do at TH9 (not even saying about TH10).

[Manyolo]

You're one of the ones that taunted TH9's for having level 7 walls, so I'm just trying to clarify which is easier for you to attack. I understand that the loot penalty makes the TH9 more attractive to loot in the first place, but that wasn't the question. Assume the TH8 just upgraded to TH9, so loot penalty isn't the issue.

Which is an easier target? TH9 with level 8 walls and maxed TH8 defenses? Or TH9 with level 7 walls and maxed x-bows, teslas, WT's, and mortars? Since you seem to think that level 7 walls are so weak, I really am curious which you think is easier to attack.

What you are saying is nonsense. This way everybody would upgrade to th10 with lvl5 walls for the maxed infernos and the extra xbow... Lets not talk about science fiction...

[Xitra]

What you are saying is nonsense. This way everybody would upgrade to th10 with lvl5 walls for the maxed infernos and the extra xbow... Lets not talk about science fiction...

It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. What the defender chooses to do, they'll do. I'll probably upgrade about 1/3 to 1/2 of my walls to skulls before I upgrade. I've done the math, and based on my rate of farming, plus my need to keep 5 builders busy, I know that I'll be lucky to have 1/3 of my walls to skulls before I finish my buildings. Don't want idle builders, so I'd be stupid to stay at TH8. I could be spending that time upgrading defenses at TH9 (so staying with my level 7 walls for quite a while).

Someone who can farm more than I can will finish their walls around the same time they finish buildings, maybe even before. In their case, idle builder time isn't a factor to consider.

You were commenting as an attacker who exploits a weakness in a base (level 7 walls). My assumption is that the TH9 with the level 8 walls is weaker than the TH9 with the level 7 walls, and superior defensive buildings. But I'm only a TH8, so I can only guess. You're the expert at smashing rushed TH9's with level 7 walls, so I'm asking you. Which is weaker?

[SinOfDusk]

It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. What the defender chooses to do, they'll do. I'll probably upgrade about 1/3 to 1/2 of my walls to skulls before I upgrade. I've done the math, and based on my rate of farming, plus my need to keep 5 builders busy, I know that I'll be lucky to have 1/3 of my walls to skulls before I finish my buildings. Don't want idle builders, so I'd be stupid to stay at TH8. I could be spending that time upgrading defenses at TH9 (so staying with my level 7 walls for quite a while).

Someone who can farm more than I can will finish their walls around the same time they finish buildings, maybe even before. In their case, idle builder time isn't a factor to consider.

You were commenting as an attacker who exploits a weakness in a base (level 7 walls). My assumption is that the TH9 with the level 8 walls is weaker than the TH9 with the level 7 walls, and superior defensive buildings. But I'm only a TH8, so I can only guess. You're the expert at smashing rushed TH9's with level 7 walls, so I'm asking you. Which is weaker?

A maxed TH8 is much easier to raid than a rushed TH9 with TH7 defenses and purple walls, simply because of more structures and more scattered storages

[Kody1217]

It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. What the defender chooses to do, they'll do. I'll probably upgrade about 1/3 to 1/2 of my walls to skulls before I upgrade. I've done the math, and based on my rate of farming, plus my need to keep 5 builders busy, I know that I'll be lucky to have 1/3 of my walls to skulls before I finish my buildings. Don't want idle builders, so I'd be stupid to stay at TH8. I could be spending that time upgrading defenses at TH9 (so staying with my level 7 walls for quite a while).

Someone who can farm more than I can will finish their walls around the same time they finish buildings, maybe even before. In their case, idle builder time isn't a factor to consider.

You were commenting as an attacker who exploits a weakness in a base (level 7 walls). My assumption is that the TH9 with the level 8 walls is weaker than the TH9 with the level 7 walls, and superior defensive buildings. But I'm only a TH8, so I can only guess. You're the expert at smashing rushed TH9's with level 7 walls, so I'm asking you. Which is weaker?

Care if I chime in? This is strictly from my army and base strength. I have full maxed TH9 army except heroes. I raid once every 2 hrs (when army and spells are cooked). To me personally, a maxed TH8 or a new TH9 with xbows doesn't matter at all. They all get the same army, spell treatment from me (usually I don't deploy heroes unless necessary when hitting TH8 or early TH9) and the result is usually I can take all 9 storages from TH9 or all 7 storages from TH8. What I want to say is.. It does not matter. Someone with powerful army can crush both anyway.

[Keeper75]

A maxed TH8 is much easier to raid than a rushed TH9 with TH7 defenses and purple walls, simply because of more structures and more scattered storages

lol, not true. AT ALL.

Just 3* a rushed TH9 guy with...guess what..BARCH! walls? a mix of gold/pink and crystal.

It's doubtfull that you can 3* a th8 with skull walls - i can't and im a maxed th9.

P.S.: my heros levels are BK 15 and AQ 13...and even with them, its hard to 3* a TH8 with maxed walls with just barch and heros. Let me rephrase it: i've never been able to 3* a TH8 with skull walls, even with spells and heros. Walls are important to max at TH8.

P.S.2: oh...and because i have a mix of skull with lego walls (which i'm farming atm), not many players target me..usually they only target my TH, which is on the outside.

[durtyshotz]

All the TH 10's are laughing at this OP thinking, sucka now your mine!!!!

[Manyolo]

All the TH 10's are laughing at this OP thinking, sucka now your mine!!!!

This !!!!!

[ronny79]

Your concept is flawed. all of it.

1. you rushed from TH7...to what? TH8? (you cannot do skull walls at th7), so this can only mean that you rushed to th8 with th7 defenses and you only did all skull walls at th8 while moving (aka rushing) again to th9..if so, this is a complete nonsense (!)

2. by rushing to th9, you're putting yourself in a even harder diminishing returns situation, meaning, it's harder to farm for walls because you get less loot then you can get as a th7 or even th8. In the end, doing walls and upgrading your th9 will take you way longer then a non rusher would take.

3. The loss of DE is 2640 per day and not 3k. You delay your AQ upgrade a bit but on the other end, since you rushed, your king; golems; minions; hogs will also be low level (probably level 1~5 on your king when you finished your...rush to th9...while still also having the rest of DE troops all at level 1)...all this "noob" troops just because you rushed...so...yep...you will be wasting tons of DE (and time!!!) trying to recover from your rush. In the end, it won't compensate the rushing that you did.

4. Clan wars...if you rushed as you say, you are putting a huge strength in your CWs, where a) you're weakening your clan in CWs by having less fair matches b) Other TH9s, non rushed, that you'll be fighting against, will be 3* you easily. (hey...i keep 3* semi maxed TH9s in my clan wars..so, as you can imagine, i love it when i find those matches where there's some bases with xbows level 1 and 2...and wizard towers at level 5 and 6...all because they rushed..easy clan war fights lol)

Anyway, i'll be a maxed TH10 with all lava walls and maybe some zap walls long before you even max your th9 defenses...at a rushed th10...gl defending yourself against lavaloonion, gowiwipe, et all.

There are people who do crazy amount of attacks and get crazy amount of loot each day. To these people that can fill 6million gold or more each day, i suggest they rush their th, and start doing higher lv wall (lego, lava, or even zap)

To the people that can only get 1-2million a day of loot, max your base is more beneficial.