Stop with the Exposed Town Hall Attacks

[WarrenJames]

Yes, this is a cheap attention getting title, but I just want to get this point across in regards to the farm base (aka exposed town hall layout) issue.

After working on this problem extensively, it is clear to me that people are taking a too simplistic and shallow approach to the problem.

• People having thier Town Hall exposed for attack, for an easy shield, is only a symptom and not the root problem.
• Only 'attacking' the symptom by modifying the shields or Town Hall to make it less viable will make people leave.
• There is no demand for 'fixes' to this issue via any method of making the exposed Town Hall layout less useful.

This problem with farming bases (not to be confused with farming or loot farming) is a sign that the defense side of the game has too many disincentives for most people to tolerate, let alone find enjoyment in. This does not mean they are cry babies and need to 'suck it up' and just deal with it. A large part of the player base have overwhelmingly voted, with thier actions, for years, that Clash of Clan's base/village defense mechanisms currently have little to no redeeming values.

To most, getting raided is pure random punishment, with 'good traditional bases' making that punishment even worse in most cases.People using a 'farming base', either via doing the numbers, or playing well by gut feeling, have time and again calculated that they are better off metagaming and exploiting the game's sheild system, than to try to mindlessly grind and somehow outpace the loss of loot they would incur playing it as originally intended.

In short, stop with these ides that attempt to cover up the symptom, and let us attack the real problem instead, and fix the defense side of things.

Thanks for reading, hope to hear some feedback, and please try to be level headed about this

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Also, wOOt! My 1,000th post!

[kmsoji]

I think this is a valid point.. Im guilty of it too, I expose my TH for the free shield because losing 4-7 trophies is much cheaper than losing hundred of thousands of elixer and gold and dark elixer... Im at TH 8 right now and have no problem maintaining my "optimal" trophy range of 1400-1650 while keeping my TH completely exposed 100% of the time.. I think honestly even if I was farming for trophies Id keep my Town hall outside untill I got into the elite ranks because losing small amounts of trophies and getting a shield untill im ready to attack again makes me less likely to get hit by that super strong opponent who can 100% my base and take it all.

Id be down with a change to make this tactic less viable but for the time being I embrace it and keep my town hall outside!

[edomingox]

I think everything is fine how it is. The people that have a problem with it, I think, are the ones that cannot come to terms with it as being part of the game.

I use the exposed TH defense to protect loot. I accept the consequences as well. In fact, I just got DE zapped about 30 minutes ago with no shield and lost 1600 DE. No biggie. This strategy however, is not dominant in the crystal and master league (as I was once there). And I'm sure it's not in the champions league either.

Also, defense is spelled with an "s" at the end.

[mike93]

sometimes if your base is attacked you dont always getting a shield unless you get 100% 3 star.

i know people do leave the th out to get a free shield but for me its farming and also its an easy way to lose trophies when you dont want to be too high, i understand your idea but im 50/50 to it. also the cost to buy shields is too expensive and if you attack you lose your shield

[Irthmus12]

I think everything is fine how it is. The people that have a problem with it, I think, are the ones that cannot come to terms with it as being part of the game.

I use the exposed TH defense to protect loot. I accept the consequences as well. In fact, I just got DE zapped about 30 minutes ago with no shield and lost 1600 DE. No biggie. This strategy however, is not dominant in the crystal and master league (as I was once there). And I'm sure it's not in the champions league either.

Also, defense is spelled with an "s" at the end.

Yeah I agree. No need to change something that doesn't need it.

[kmsoji]

Also, defense is spelled with an "s" at the end.

According to " http://www.spellcheckonline.com/defense-vs-defence/ "

Defence and defense are different spellings of the same word; yet belong to different forms of the English language. Defense is used in American English, and defence is used in British English, which spans Australian and Canadian English.

Being from Canada I always spell it Defence , please dont insult people just because they spell something differently when it is still correct.

[lightdexter]

We're only using game mechanics to our advantage. And no it's not always a lazy solution. While you attack to gain loot I attack to gain back the trophies I lost.

[iceageg]

. . . This problem with farming bases (not to be confused with farming or loot farming) is a sign that the defense side of the game has too many disincentives for most people to tolerate, let alone find enjoyment in. . .

Yep, there's your answer. SC can't do away with easy shields unless they make major/sweeping changes to the game at the same time. Changes that may be too difficult to deploy to a game that is as established as this one. SC is probably better off just using this as "lessons learned" and developing their next game with this dynamic already addressed.

I know if I played for 8 straight hours trying to save 7mill gold and elixir to start an xbow and archers upgraded, then lost most of it because I got attacked 7 times in the first 15 minutes after I logged off because I my defense was strong enough to deny myself a shield . . . that would be the last day that I clashed.

This is one of two issues that I have with the basic design of CoC. Having a strong defense (able to repel attacks) only means you will be attacked more and thus, you will loose more resources. It is best to loose your first defense and hope that they don't take everything that was available. Good defense is penalized. The second is how TH10 needs the most resources, but has less available to attack for, and can have the most taken when attacked . . . Getting off topic though. I simply choose not to complain about them because fixing them would be a massive undertaking and probably cause a great deal of turmoil while the game balanced itself back out again.

In the end the game works this way. It fact, it works very well. So (metaphor time) while there are a few cracks in the foundation, the foundation is very strong. Plenty strong enough to hold up the skyscraper that is CoC. I don't think it would be prudent to risk toppling the entire building to fix a few cracks when the existence of those cracks isn't causing a problem. They shouldn't be there, and ideally they wouldn't. But they are and fixing them runs a huge risk of toppling the building. Remember, we are talking about "huge problems" with the most successful mobile game to date. It obviously isn't all that broken. Certainly better than it was back in the lix4walls recession and getting better.

[mushy]

I dont see it as a problem. I have used exposed th a lot and think its very important to new and growing players. Without it we would have to suffer major losses everytime from more powerful players and that would put most people off.

I am almost a maxed th9 now and need to do walls so am farming in gold league and also protecring my base. I get attacked and gain unwanted trophies getting me up to crystal league where the loot is scarse and I dont want to be there so an exposed th serves also to keep me in the league I want to be in.

There are so many people to attack that your shield complaint just seems petty. Most ppl trolling these forums about this just want to be given the right to revenge as and when they want.

[gamul1]

[QUOTE=mike93;3950249] sometimes if your base is attacked you dont always getting a shield ... /QUOTE]

This. I actually know care much about the loss of loot. When I raid I raid 2 or 3 times and often make 2 or 3 times as much loot than can be taken if I am 100%. What comes around goes around. In fact, I actually enjoy a well executed raid on my base. I learn from it - both defensively and offensively. I appreciate a good attack.

No - while I enjoy the free shields too, I have it there to hopefully at least ensure I get a shield when I am raided. It annoys the heck out of me to come back to a 39% "victory" where they got a good percent of my loot, but no shield, and then follow up with someone that did give me a shield and also took a bunch of loot.

If you're stealing my loot at least have some decency and give me my shield.

I always revenge ppl that do that to me...