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    Quote Originally Posted by mARCSBUG View Post
    Generally speaking yes, it is a question of transparany, from a standpoint of commerce, look at what happend with EA in regards to the Battlefield franchise.




    I think digesting my response for a little longer may possibly help you to understand its context.



    You're entitled to your opinion, I am indeed however you wish to perceive me.

    I have to go back to work now but do not have any issues with taking this back up when I'm home this evening.
    Wait do you seriously not comprehend why they will not openly say anything?
    Do you actually expect them to say 'this is a ♥♥♥♥ and here is where you download it, we are trying to deal with it but cant realistically any time soon. So go ahead and use it and tell everyone and their grandma so we can ruin the game'.?
    That would not only make more people use it but would also harm their integrity. Even if you dont care about their integrity if you actually have a problem with it then dont promote it on the forums! Next time pm a staff on the forums or send email to support. Because thats how you communicate with supercell, this is how you communicate with other players.

    To summarise, they would deal with it regardless, and you bringing it up on the forums openly doesnt deal with it, it only makes it worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mARCSBUG View Post
    Dear Friend,

    Please supply us with an official media release that confirms both the acknowledgement of the issue as well as a breakdown of the internal control procedures that are/have been implemented in regards to this matter.

    It would also be greatly appreciated if you could cross reference the resources used in regards to this issue against projects developed/and in development.
    mARCSBUG, SC is more than happy to share that particular information every single day at the staff meeting.
    As we are all aware Supercell shares all revenue data , concerns , bugs, insights , horoscopes, birthdays and witty office banter within the confines of the office walls.

    Your more than welcome to apply for for a role http://supercell.com/en/careers/ failing that, applications for a moderators position here on the official forums will gain you insights as well.

    Following your successful venture into either available option with Supercell you'll be required to sign the standard Supercell Non discloser agreement , naturally rendering all information viewed , over heard , discussed deemed sensitive and proprietary.

    I'm glad we had this chat , is there anything else I can clear up for you in regards to Supercell sharing of sensitive information?

    Kind regards and best of luck for your application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janz View Post
    Attacking is done on the client software. No matter what, h@ckers will always be able to h@ck the client software.

    While attacking, the client communicates with the server. The server makes sure all of the data from the client is valid. Otherwise someone could h@ck the client, make it pass false data to the server, and automatically win every attack.

    The problem is, the client can't communicate with the server 100% of the time. The quality of mobile devices' internet connections is very unreliable. This means, the client software has to has to be able to run the attacking algorithms itself, in absence of the server.

    Since the attacking algorithms exist on the client software, h@cks can prevent the client from communicating with the server, resulting in the ability to perform "sandbox" attacks.

    To prevent sandbox attacks, they would need to remove the attacking algorithms from the client. This means, the client would have to have a solid and fast connection to the server 100% of the time, and there would be lots of issues with lag.

    Basically, there are two options. Have smooth gameplay for everyone, but allow some people to che@t. Or prevent people from che@ting, but have laggy gameplay for everyone.
    This is correct.

    From a software developer's point of view, this fix although not that difficult, will cause more harm to the game than good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sneakymaori View Post
    mARCSBUG, SC is more than happy to share that particular information every single day at the staff meeting.
    As we are all aware Supercell shares all revenue data , concerns , bugs, insights , horoscopes, birthdays and witty office banter within the confines of the office walls.

    Your more than welcome to apply for for a role http://supercell.com/en/careers/ failing that, applications for a moderators position here on the official forums will gain you insights as well.

    Following your successful venture into either available option with Supercell you'll be required to sign the standard Supercell Non discloser agreement , naturally rendering all information viewed , over heard , discussed deemed sensitive and proprietary.

    I'm glad we had this chat , is there anything else I can clear up for you in regards to Supercell sharing of sensitive information?

    Kind regards and best of luck for your application.

    sneakymaori
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    Am I the only one who rather have them fix the time bugs and the AI than the che@t?

    Anyway, they won't fix anything.

    Timebug is an official no.

    AI is an official "constantly working process"

    Che@t is "I will delete very single topic about this. If you don't see people talking about it, it might be not true"

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    Why fix it ?

    Guys now really why cant you see it from a business point of view ?

    As long as che@ts does not effect money negatively, they wont bother fixing it !

    Try to act smart for a bit people ! When the gem glitch happened back then, SC fixed it withing few hours and even rolled back player who abused that glitch.

    As long as it doesn't effect the income revenue, no act will happen.

    To make it worse, the che@ts are actually increasing SC revenue
    - Players are buying more gems and boosting more due to the auto-search functionality that the che@t have instead of hitting next for 20 minutes every time.
    - Players are pumping more gems for cups now that they can simulate and stay active for 6 hours
    - Players are finishing their heroes before war raids to simulate raids and get more stars.

    The options that the che@ts add to this game favors SC revenue, so no logical reason to make them act.
    Actually it would be nice if SC can add those features to the game so that everyone can use them.
    We spare time spamming the next button for hours, and we practice raids and improve our raiding skills.

    The one moment a gem/time/money glitch exist, you will see then how SC will act with light-speed to fix it
    Last edited by edergham; February 18th, 2015 at 06:56 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBeatz View Post
    I think SC should hire the guys telling them to fix the game to fix the game.
    This is probably the dumbest thing ive heard all week, so what you are getting at is anyone that does not posses years of programing skill should not be able to complain about the service they are recieving. Its a good thing the world doesnt actually work this way. Staggering stupidity

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    Quote Originally Posted by edergham View Post
    Guys now really why cant you see it from a business point of view ?

    As long as che@ts does not effect money negatively, they wont bother fixing it !

    Try to act smart for a bit people ! When the gem glitch happened back then, SC fixed it withing few hours and even rolled back player who abused that glitch.

    As long as it doesn't effect the income revenue, no act will happen.

    To make it worse, the che@ts are actually increasing SC revenue
    - Players are buying more gems and boosting more due to the auto-search functionality that the che@t have instead of hitting next for 20 minutes every time.
    - Players are pumping more gems for cups now that they can simulate and stay active for 6 hours
    - Players are finishing their heroes before war raids to simulate raids and get more stars.

    The options that the che@ts add to this game favors SC revenue, so no logical reason to make them act.
    Actually it would be nice if SC can add those features to the game so that everyone can use them.
    We spare time spamming the next button for hours, and we practice raids and improve our raiding skills.

    The one moment a gem/time/money glitch exist, you will see then how SC will act with light-speed to fix it
    This guy gets it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by edergham View Post
    Guys now really why cant you see it from a business point of view ?

    As long as che@ts does not effect money negatively, they wont bother fixing it !

    Try to act smart for a bit people ! When the gem glitch happened back then, SC fixed it withing few hours and even rolled back player who abused that glitch.

    As long as it doesn't effect the income revenue, no act will happen.

    To make it worse, the che@ts are actually increasing SC revenue
    - Players are buying more gems and boosting more due to the auto-search functionality that the che@t have instead of hitting next for 20 minutes every time.
    - Players are pumping more gems for cups now that they can simulate and stay active for 6 hours
    - Players are finishing their heroes before war raids to simulate raids and get more stars.

    The options that the che@ts add to this game favors SC revenue, so no logical reason to make them act.
    Actually it would be nice if SC can add those features to the game so that everyone can use them.
    We spare time spamming the next button for hours, and we practice raids and improve our raiding skills.

    The one moment a gem/time/money glitch exist, you will see then how SC will act with light-speed to fix it
    You seem to have confused glitches and ♥♥♥♥s which are obviously different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janz View Post
    Attacking is done on the client software. No matter what, h@ckers will always be able to h@ck the client software.

    While attacking, the client communicates with the server. The server makes sure all of the data from the client is valid. Otherwise someone could h@ck the client, make it pass false data to the server, and automatically win every attack.

    The problem is, the client can't communicate with the server 100% of the time. The quality of mobile devices' internet connections is very unreliable. This means, the client software has to has to be able to run the attacking algorithms itself, in absence of the server.

    Since the attacking algorithms exist on the client software, h@cks can prevent the client from communicating with the server, resulting in the ability to perform "sandbox" attacks.

    To prevent sandbox attacks, they would need to remove the attacking algorithms from the client. This means, the client would have to have a solid and fast connection to the server 100% of the time, and there would be lots of issues with lag.

    Basically, there are two options. Have smooth gameplay for everyone, but allow some people to che@t. Or prevent people from che@ting, but have laggy gameplay for everyone.
    You absolutely beat me to the punch. Once the attacks occur locally on your iDevice, there's little that can be done to prevent it.

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