Upgrade your mines and pumps!

[Gama321]

But if 'no one in the game had upgraded collectors', wouldn't that include those inactive bases as well? Upgrades require a lot of resources, especially for TH9s and TH10s. If they were all competing for the resources generated only by low-level collectors, even if there were more inactives pushed up in the queue (but those inactive bases had low-level collectors), the statement about loot getting dry pretty fast would still be true.

That's a bit more extreme but if that was the case then loot will simply be created elsewhere, like increasing loot bonus or they will be forced to give hand-outs to people who log on daily so they can at least cook some troops and raid. Or they would incentivise it by giving gems to those who do, the fact they haven't vindicates that they don't really see it as a problem (in the game currently, not your example) I guess. But yeah theoretically if nobody upgraded them to reasonable levels and SC didn't intervene and non-gemmers wouldn't be able to play leaving only gemmers who would get bored when there isn't poor non-gemmers for them to look down on, and the game would die.

Luckily that isn't the case as the value to levelling collectors is higher the less you play, which comprises of many players who typically aren't on the forums. So whereas some people benefit from not upgrading them (or at least not prioritising them), others have personal gain from upgrading them and will do so.

[Pete82]

Anyone active enough to not need collector loot is active enough to never let you raid them anyway. Mine have been hit about twice in the 16 months or so I've played.

[daz258]

Smells a little like a troll thread.

But mine are maxed and I'm glad they are, giving myself the highest fixed income possible per day by my own pumps.

[beards]

Because they are leeches who profit from inactives but don't want to give back in return.

HAHAAHAHAH on so many lvls.

But, one does wonder how one gives back to inactives? o.O

[Camja11]

First, you need to order them in your build que. I personally upgraded mine when my clan did a push as i didn't want my defenses down while the push was on. Outside of that there are periods when it makes sence to upgrade them, and time when not to.


i do get a chuckle out of the arguement that "I don't need to upgrade them, I can make it up in a single raid". This is the most brain dead arguement I've ever heard.

YOU CAN NOT MAKE IT UP RAIDING....EVER!

Do do these people think that people with max collecters sit and wait and not raid for a while so all the other guys can "make it up in the single raid"???

If you remove the variables for a second, a person with Max collectors and a person with minimum collectors both raid 1 million resources, the one with Max collectors gets 1 million + collector loot. YOU ALWAYS make more loot. ALWAYS. You can never make it up in raiding as there is nothing to make up.

(end rant)

[daz258]

If you remove the variables for a second, a person with Max collectors and a person with minimum collectors both raid 1 million resources, the one with Max collectors gets 1 million + collector loot. YOU ALWAYS make more loot. ALWAYS. You can never make it up in raiding as there is nothing to make up.

(end rant)

Exactly, and given many of us have clashed for a year or longer, that extra passive income becomes quite significant.

[Firkrag]

Here's another interesting statistic for you. The equivalent gem amount of the resources you are loosing out of if you don't upgrade your mines (according to the same assumptions given in my previous post on this):

TH1 480, 3 gems
TH2 12,615, 28 gems
TH3 162,115, 158 gems
TH4 1,094,400, 625 gems
TH5 7,200,000, 2253 gems
TH6 7,920,000, 2443 gems
TH7 49,248,000, 15467 gems
TH8 144,144,000, 44545 gems
TH9 156,240,000, 48332 gems
TH10 244,608,000, 75564 gems

That's a total of 189,418 gems worth of gold/elixir at each TH level, which is $1,353.

[Siddmaster]

Even though lots of people claim that mines have "low loot per hour", it benefits people a lot. Especially when they're sleeping, loot when you can't raid. It builds up.

[Recruiterbob]

First, you need to order them in your build que. I personally upgraded mine when my clan did a push as i didn't want my defenses down while the push was on. Outside of that there are periods when it makes sence to upgrade them, and time when not to.


i do get a chuckle out of the arguement that "I don't need to upgrade them, I can make it up in a single raid". This is the most brain dead arguement I've ever heard.

YOU CAN NOT MAKE IT UP RAIDING....EVER!

Do do these people think that people with max collecters sit and wait and not raid for a while so all the other guys can "make it up in the single raid"???

If you remove the variables for a second, a person with Max collectors and a person with minimum collectors both raid 1 million resources, the one with Max collectors gets 1 million + collector loot. YOU ALWAYS make more loot. ALWAYS. You can never make it up in raiding as there is nothing to make up.

(end rant)

You seem to miss the pointy, you only collect what you need. So I can raid the difference. Its not like there is some magical grand total and to not have pumps means forever. Will you be behind. If we both need 6mil in a 3 day period you have max pumps mine are lvl7, then I just braid tywo more time than you in that three day period, that is easier than spending days without a builder at low lvls where things don't cvost a lot to upgrade and loot is overwhelmingly abundant

[Pete82]

You seem to miss the pointy, you only collect what you need. So I can raid the difference. Its not like there is some magical grand total and to not have pumps means forever. Will you be behind. If we both need 6mil in a 3 day period you have max pumps mine are lvl7, then I just braid tywo more time than you in that three day period, that is easier than spending days without a builder at low lvls where things don't cvost a lot to upgrade and loot is overwhelmingly abundant

This. People can't seem to understand that storages are limited, and loot is difficult to spend in large quantities until TH9.