Upgrade your mines and pumps!

[Gama321]

You're missing the entire point of this guy's post. Where do you think most of that loot that you raid comes from? The majority of the resources in the game originate from collectors. He is right in saying that if no one in the game had upgraded collectors, loot would get dry pretty fast.

I guess this is somewhat applicable
'The tragedy of the commons is an economic theory by Garrett Hardin, which states that individuals acting independently and rationally according to each's self-interest behave contrary to the best interests of the whole group by depleting some common resource.'

But now that I think about it, if SC are regulating the total loot in the economy upgrading them wouldn't actually have a difference on the aggregate as it would just alter the amount of collector raids in the back of the queue.

[Firkrag]

The simple answer is that I would?d rather put a builder on a defensive building then a mine. Its no real problem to get loot one raid a day covers what my mines would bring in. At th10 its different though, hard to collect 6.5 milx5 or 4 so you tend to have builders you can put on mines. I just find it faster to build that way. Why you are spending weeks upgrading pumps I am already a th lvl ahead of you easily taking your loot.

I'm not sure what the amount of resources you are farming per day is, but I do know that I would rather tie up my builders on defensive upgrades at TH 9 & 10 rather than tying them up on a 3-5 day mine/collector upgrade at that level IMO. The thing is, I would strongly recommend that players max them at TH8 when they have 60 days of extra lab time to wait on if they are not too impatient to rush to TH9.

[badfish1979]

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But now that I think about it, if SC are regulating the total loot in the economy upgrading them wouldn't actually have a difference on the aggregate as it would just alter the amount of collector raids in the back of the queue.

But if 'no one in the game had upgraded collectors', wouldn't that include those inactive bases as well? Upgrades require a lot of resources, especially for TH9s and TH10s. If they were all competing for the resources generated only by low-level collectors, even if there were more inactives pushed up in the queue (but those inactive bases had low-level collectors), the statement about loot getting dry pretty fast would still be true.

[Recruiterbob]

I'm not sure what the amount of resources you are farming per day is, but I do know that I would rather tie up my builders on defensive upgrades at TH 9 & 10 rather than tying them up on a 3-5 day mine/collector upgrade at that level IMO. The thing is, I would strongly recommend that players max them at TH8 when they have 60 days of extra lab time to wait on if they are not too impatient to rush to TH9.

I am gonna guess you are not th10. Everything is 6.5 mil +. At th8 what do upgrades cost 2 mil? It is so Mich easier to build up at th8. When you hit th10, that sense of I can get my builders going in just two hours is gone. I have one on my royals and then need 27 million gold to keep the other 4 busy. That just isn't realistic. I don't have 12 hours a day to farm that. It has the added difficulty of loot beimg harder to obtain at th10. I pretty much loon for loot now, builting my army takes lomger. So I do 2-3 defenses depending on their length and 1-2 pumps.
The pumps themselves only help relieve the pressure, 200k a day x 10 days, an average build time is only 2 mil of the 6.5 you are gonna need. For just 1 builder in that time span. So u mless you have all day or a lot of gems to farm out the other 3 builders, be prepared to have dead builders. So yeah, I find it easier to do my pumps then. The only reason I actually chose to do my pumps is so eventually my pumps can max my walls without me doing anything.

[Firkrag]

I am gonna guess you are not th10. Everything is 6.5 mil +. At th8 what do upgrades cost 2 mil? It is so Mich easier to build up at th8. When you hit th10, that sense of I can get my builders going in just two hours is gone. I have one on my royals and then need 27 million gold to keep the other 4 busy. That just isn't realistic. I don't have 12 hours a day to farm that. It has the added difficulty of loot beimg harder to obtain at th10. I pretty much loon for loot now, builting my army takes lomger. So I do 2-3 defenses depending on their length and 1-2 pumps.
The pumps themselves only help relieve the pressure, 200k a day x 10 days, an average build time is only 2 mil of the 6.5 you are gonna need. For just 1 builder in that time span. So u mless you have all day or a lot of gems to farm out the other 3 builders, be prepared to have dead builders. So yeah, I find it easier to do my pumps then. The only reason I actually chose to do my pumps is so eventually my pumps can max my walls without me doing anything.

You're correct, I am a TH9 and I understand where you coming from. I haven't farmed at TH10 yet, so I haven't seen what the loot is like myself. My only point to players was that there is time to do mine/collector upgrades at TH8 and avoid sleepy builders rather than just jumping ahead to TH9 when they get bored. Then, according to the calculations in my previous posts to this thread, they would have accumulated a potential 156 million (312 million boosted) plus gold/elixir, net, over the time they were at TH9 that they could have put towards upgrades/walls along with their raiding revenue, which is more of positive benefit to them IMO. But that always comes down to what peoples priorities are. People tend to want to see end game content so badly they always loose focus on the small things.

[SinOfDusk]

I consider myself an active player and can raid 5-7mil of each resource per day. If my mines were maxed, then that's a 7-10% increase in my total loot gain per day, not a small amount actually. If I upgrade defenses, I get an exactly 0% increase in total loot gain. If you're not as active and can only farm 2mil per day, collectors would weigh in even more

[qwerty67213]

It's free guaranteed loot. Upgrade your mines and pumps.

[farglschmitz]

3500 an hour x6-7 is 21,000-24,500 an hour. important.
(someone check my math )

Yea, but that's 500-580k per day of each resource. That is important.

[thunderstorm225]

Very valid point. I upgraded most of my collectors as soon as I hit TH8. I gave them priority over defenses and storages.

They are generating half a million gold and elixir each daily. Easy income without doing anything. Also, upgrade DE drills to max.

http://i.imgur.com/IbpEwB7.jpg

[QandAclash]

Just becuase we like our wooden mines doesnt mean we get a lot of loot

Bots. Probably anyway. Or do you just want your lazy collectors bases?