Opt in or out of clan war with war status button

[Gravitos]

Hey All!


This is a quick suggestion based on a painful process that we endure in our clan. When people want to opt out of war, we have to kick them out of the clan, then start a new war, then invite them back to the clan. This can be a tedious and difficult process to manage. What would eliminate this painful process is a simple button attached to the clan castle (as illustrated below) that would allow a user to opt in or out of war by setting their preference. In the clan user list, leaders will be able to see who is opting in or out based on who has a war icon next to their name prior to starting a new war. I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it warrants revisiting as this is a constant problem for clans that war non stop.

Let me know your thoughts on this idea. Thanks!

EDIT: The assumption being that once you turn war status off, you are then automatically excluded from war searches and can not participate in wars until you turn the war status back on. At which time you will be included in the next war search.

EDIT 2: rwelshjr suggests allowing leaders to opt people out as well, which makes sense. If for some reason a clan member is not responding and not available, the leader can then have the authority to opt the user out of the clan war search preventing the leader fomr having to kick the user. Thanks for the suggestions rwelshjr.


Opt in war by turning the war status button On.





Opt out of war by turning the war status button Off.




Clan leaders can see who is opting in or out by war icon next to their name.





EDIT: (As suggested by rwelshjr) Leaders can also opt clan members in or out of war if needed.

This would have to override the member's war status setting forcing the member to either opt in or out. At any time the member can still change their own status giving the leader and the member simultaneous control of their status.

[BattleBorn007]

Hey All!


This is a quick suggestion based on a painful process that we endure in our clan. When people want to opt out of war, we have to kick them out of the clan, then start a new war, then invite them back to the clan. This can be a tedious and difficult process to manage. What would eliminate this painful process is a simple button attached to the clan castle (as illustrated below) that would allow a user to opt in or out of war by setting their preference. In the clan user list, leaders will be able to see who is opting in or out based on who has a war icon next to their name prior to starting a new war. I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it warrants revisiting as this is a constant problem for clans that war non stop.

Let me know your thoughts on this idea. Thanks!

Opt in war by turning the war status button On.



Opt out of war by turning the war status button Off.



Clan leaders can see who is opting in or out by war icon next to their name.

Welcome to the IFR this has been asked many times before please use the search function.
However I do like the pictures

Good Luck and Clash On

[rwelshjr]

Hey All!


This is a quick suggestion based on a painful process that we endure in our clan. When people want to opt out of war, we have to kick them out of the clan, then start a new war, then invite them back to the clan. This can be a tedious and difficult process to manage. What would eliminate this painful process is a simple button attached to the clan castle (as illustrated below) that would allow a user to opt in or out of war by setting their preference. In the clan user list, leaders will be able to see who is opting in or out based on who has a war icon next to their name prior to starting a new war. I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it warrants revisiting as this is a constant problem for clans that war non stop.

Let me know your thoughts on this idea. Thanks!

This is a great concept. the only issue is that the leader trying to set up the war cant get to the button if it was there and so they would have to still just kick the person like we do now. Here is an alternate approach that allows a leader to simply deactivate the person rather than kick. And also the person themselves can do it too...

Suggested approach to opt in/out...

There should be a button on the clan info page (it can be a new one or the war shield can be modified) that toggles a player as in or out.

Access to hit the button to toggle should go to the leader and the player in question.
---- individual players cannot opt each other in or out
---- its an argument either way to give it to co as well - Good for clans where co is a management job, bad for clans that give it out like candy. (I consider the latter to be a sign of a bad leader)
---- A leader who abuses authority to opt guys in against their wishes are really just hurting their own selves for how they are adding a risk to their war participation. (the guy might then just not attack anyhow, if not seeing eye to eye with leader he wont care)
---- A leader opting a guy out against his wishes has that prerogative to decide who he wants in his war. And its still nicer than just kicking the guy like happens now.

The status of a player is only a factor right at the time a war starts. Instead of just selecting all eligible players from the total population it will just be all eligible players from the opted in group.
---- Can even implement by leveraging the existing eligibility functionality that currently is only driven by a timer.

After that everything works the same. The list of warriors from the clan is rounded to an even 5 via the existing logic and then the matchmaking calculation takes place also using the existing logic.

A player joins a clan with his eligibility set the same way it is today. (He is in unless there is a timer)


Things that would not happen -
...A player cannot add themselves to a war after the fact. If they change their status during a war it makes no difference until the next war when that status is read at startup.
...This would not serve as a way to replace members that take off during war. if they do that then there is the same affect on the war as there is today. Unused attacks stay unused. (it will never change that this just stinks when guys pull that stunt)

[Gravitos]

This is a great concept. the only issue is that the leader trying to set up the war cant get to the button if it was there and so they would have to still just kick the person like we do now. Here is an alternate approach that allows a leader to simply deactivate the person rather than kick. And also the person themselves can do it too...

Suggested approach to opt in/out...

There should be a button on the clan info page (it can be a new one or the war shield can be modified) that toggles a player as in or out.

Access to hit the button to toggle should go to the leader and the player in question.
---- individual players cannot opt each other in or out
---- its an argument either way to give it to co as well - Good for clans where co is a management job, bad for clans that give it out like candy. (I consider the latter to be a sign of a bad leader)
---- A leader who abuses authority to opt guys in against their wishes are really just hurting their own selves for how they are adding a risk to their war participation. (the guy might then just not attack anyhow, if not seeing eye to eye with leader he wont care)
---- A leader opting a guy out against his wishes has that prerogative to decide who he wants in his war. And its still nicer than just kicking the guy like happens now.

The status of a player is only a factor right at the time a war starts. Instead of just selecting all eligible players from the total population it will just be all eligible players from the opted in group.
---- Can even implement by leveraging the existing eligibility functionality that currently is only driven by a timer.

After that everything works the same. The list of warriors from the clan is rounded to an even 5 via the existing logic and then the matchmaking calculation takes place also using the existing logic.

A player joins a clan with his eligibility set the same way it is today. (He is in unless there is a timer)


Things that would not happen -
...A player cannot add themselves to a war after the fact. If they change their status during a war it makes no difference until the next war when that status is read at startup.
...This would not serve as a way to replace members that take off during war. if they do that then there is the same affect on the war as there is today. Unused attacks stay unused. (it will never change that this just stinks when guys pull that stunt)

Thanks for the reply. I edited my post above to reflect an important detail that I left out, which is that once you set your war status to off, you are automatically excluded from wars and cannot be included again until you turn your status back to on. At which time you will be available to participate in the next war search. And only the user not the leaders can set their war status to off or on in my scenario.

We're saying the same things. You clarified some things for me that I forgot to mention. Thanks!

[rwelshjr]

Thanks for the reply. I edited my post above to reflect an important detail that I left out, which is that once you turn set your war status to off, you are automatically excluded from wars and cannot be included again until you turn your status back to on. At which time you will be available to participate in the next war search. And only the user not the leaders can set their war status to off or on in my scenario.

We're saying the same things. You clarified some things for me that I forgot to mention. Thanks!

It think that trying to make it so that only the user can do it is a flaw in your plan. You should update it so that leader or user can do it. Its actually not that useful unless the leader can do it. The reason being that you are not getting rid of the practice of kicking people like what happens today. The leader needs a less drastic tool than kicking.

[Gravitos]

It think that trying to make it so that only the user can do it is a flaw in your plan. You should update it so that leader or user can do it. Its actually not that useful unless the leader can do it. The reason being that you are not getting rid of the practice of kicking people like what happens today. The leader needs a less drastic tool than kicking.

I see your point.

[rwelshjr]

I see your point.

I liked how you are gifted with graphics. If you could make the button on the clan page that would be a cool pictue. I would use it as I continue to push this idea.

Also, in my idea I speak to the topic of 2 ways folks have though how a leader would abuse the button against members wishes if you want to check those. (Why one way is just the leader shooting himself in the foot so its not likely to happen. the other way its really his right and still nicer than kicking)

[Fordillia]

This is how we do it and if we have players who don't use their battles. But are otherwise loyal members kick them before war search and reinvite them immediately after using their kicked link

[rwelshjr]

This is how we do it and if we have players who don't use their battles. But are otherwise loyal members kick them before war search and reinvite them immediately after using their kicked link

Yeah, that's a problem. Its been messing up all but a few clans. that's why the suggested fix.

[TdubD]

Thumbs up to this!! Please vote!

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