Keep gold at 500,000 and let us upgrade level 7 only for 50% more elixir
Keep gold at 500,000 and let us upgrade level 7 only for 50% more elixir
Only if you are forced to have 2,000,000 in your storages before you can spend it.
Madmojo LVL 112/TH9 - Clan Leader - THE CHOSEN FEW
750k elixir, what a joke!Originally Posted by Zanthous
I assume this is to help TH8's, right? At TH8, you will probably waste upwards of 50 million elixir, either due to overflowing storages, or having it raided from you. So I totally get that TH8's will want an option to spend the elixir on something useful, besides just troops and spells and clearing obstacles.
But 750k is just too low. At a bare minimum, it should be at least a full million. Sound too high? I just stated that TH8's probably waste upwards of 50 million elixir. That's easily 50 pieces of wall out of 225. That's 50 pieces of wall you don't have to farm gold to get.
And it would keep semi-decent loot in the economy. At 500k or 750k a pop, TH8's will dump elixir whenever they can, even in the early stages, unless they have a builder or lab coming available soon. At a million a pop, it becomes something worth holding onto, as a down payment on an upgrade that might still be a day or two away. (No, I don't need specific examples from active players who say that this won't deter them, or from very inactive farmers who say they wouldn't even dump 500k elixir until they're in the final wall-building stages of TH8. I'm just saying, taken over the average, a price tag of at least a million elixir will be needed to keep elixir in the economy. Honestly, I think it should cost more, maybe 1.5M, just because TH8 has so much excess elixir, but then people would complain because L9 walls only cost 1M elixir. Of course, my solution to that is that I think L9 walls should cost 2M elixir.
But in any event, 750k is not nearly enough of a price increase to prevent TH8 players from dumping all their excess elixir and ruining the economy, again!
implying the game's economy is good. Also I think 50mil is a bit generous
Last edited by Zanthous; February 2nd, 2015 at 08:52 PM.
Nope, level 8 walls should cost 500k elixir. SuperCell stop being greedy, this change would fix the economy in clash of clans.
Generous? The upgrades at TH8 cost tens of millions more gold than elixir. Even if you didn't upgrade a single wall at TH8, you will end up wasting elixir. Either you'll overflow your storages, or you'll get raided for elixir you can't spend, or you'll build armies more expensive than you need and take losses on raids, just to get more gold.
Now add in over 100 million gold to upgrade all the walls. In that time, even a picky farmer should accidentally farm at least 50 million elixir while farming that 100 million gold. Unless you're like me, doing collector raids and intentionally leaving the elixir behind for someone else (and trying not to give the defender a shield, so that elixir goes straight back into the queue). But some people mix their collectors and mines, so you can't help getting it all!
So yeah, I was being very conservative with that 50M figure. It's probably upwards of 100M for some players. For players who use a very cheap army, like barch, and who max their walls at TH8 before upgrading to TH9, it's probably upwards of 120M to 150M, unless they manage to farm a lot of gold.
Part of the reason I'm in favor of allowing level 8 walls to be purchased with elixir, is to solve this massive amount of waste. Granted, if the elixir is raided, it's not wasted in the overall economy. But the elixir that goes into expensive troops that aren't really needed, or is overflowed and just disappears? That's a problem for the economy, just like having TH8's dump all their elixir into walls was a problem two months ago. (Well, not as big of a problem, but still pretty big...)
But there needs to be something to balance it out. I'm in favor of having elixir walls cost more than gold walls. A L8 wall could cost 1M to 1.5M elixir, and I think it would balance the game quite nicely. No way to find out for sure without trying it. But we know exactly what will happen if they bring back elixir walls at the same cost as gold. And we don't want that. (By we, I mean everyone except for current TH8 players who are grinding their walls while they sit on overflowing elixir storages.)
Last edited by Xitra; February 2nd, 2015 at 09:39 PM.
Please explain how this would fix the economy?
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