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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto152 View Post
    MAYBE all solutions suggested so far cause more problems than they're worth. MAYBE. But if they do then why not put our thinking caps on to suggest a better solution? You people are acting like SC has some trigger button ready to be pulled on any suggestion. They're smart people. They can figure out good fixes from bad fixes and avoid the latter.
    As i said I dont think there is, it would have to be something paradigm shifting that is just so completely out of the box. Theoretically there is no solution from SC that would help for reasons I have already stated, that is the current state of affairs, if you do not have some mind-blowing idea dont act as if one exists. Especially since we have already agreed that there are things the clan can do to solve their issues themselves and grow successfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gama321 View Post
    It was based on my knowledge of the problem. As i had already stated any fix by nature would be detrimental. Of course if its something absolutely mind-blowing I could be wrong but I dont think there is.
    Also this thread isnt about the spam bots but about people joining and leaving after war starts, again, read. And secondly there is nothing wrong with being invite only, it makes recruiting slightly harder but anyone who would actually want to join would still join, it actually filters out the hoppers and solves the problem. What you have described as a negative consequence is actually the solution that the OP was looking for.
    The only one not reading here is you. I noted the clan war issue as the problem that prompted my clan to shut down randoms. I'm now noting tangential issues since you didn't seem to agree initially
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto152 View Post
    MAYBE all solutions suggested so far cause more problems than they're worth. MAYBE. But if they do then why not put our thinking caps on to suggest a better solution? You people are acting like SC has some trigger button ready to be pulled on any suggestion. They're smart people. They can figure out good fixes from bad fixes and avoid the latter.
    You are right that SC can do as they please. But you did not write to SC, you wrote to the forum which is many users sharing their thoughts.

    So my thoughts are - the OPs suggestion is in my opinion very poor in that it would hurt a lot of people. Those reasons are given in several posts on this thread and are reasons why SC should put that thought aside.The things I suggested are already proven very good because its how most clans successfully operate today. They suffice as reasons why SC should not feel like there is any pressing need for them to do anything about 'between clan activity' (hoppers or otherwise). Not only is the OPs solution not needed, there is not any need for any 'solution' because there is no 'problem'. Most clans nor members are not at all having the problem you are describing which implies that those that do have it are making it for themselves. So of course people here (who are mostly from clans that are working) see no need for a fix that would be so damaging to so many.

    I sincerely hops SC does not implement the idea suggested on this post nor mess with inter clan activity at all. I also think they won't for the reasons stated by several on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gama321 View Post
    As i said I dont think there is, it would have to be something paradigm shifting that is just so completely out of the box. Theoretically there is no solution from SC that would help for reasons I have already stated, that is the current state of affairs, if you do not have some mind-blowing idea dont act as if one exists. Especially since we have already agreed that there are things the clan can do to solve their issues themselves and grow successfully.
    Sorry? I'm the presumptuous one for thinking maybe SC might have a fix? You have no idea the data they look at. I'm deferring to them while you're speaking for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto152 View Post
    The only one not reading here is you. I noted the clan war issue as the problem that prompted my clan to shut down randoms. I'm now noting tangential issues since you didn't seem to agree initially
    Oh come on, you said I wasn't too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwelshjr View Post
    You are right that SC can do as they please. But you did not write to SC, you wrote to the forum which is many users sharing their thoughts.

    So my thoughts are - the OPs suggestion is in my opinion very poor in that it would hurt a lot of people. Those reasons are given in several posts on this thread and are reasons why SC should put that thought aside.The things I suggested are already proven very good because its how most clans successfully operate today. They suffice as reasons why SC should not feel like there is any pressing need for them to do anything about 'between clan activity' (hoppers or otherwise). Not only is the OPs solution not needed, there is not any need for any 'solution' because there is no 'problem'. Most clans nor members are not at all having the problem you are describing which implies that those that do have it are making it for themselves. So of course people here (who are mostly from clans that are working) see no need for a fix that would be so damaging to so many.

    I sincerely hops SC does not implement the idea suggested on this post nor mess with inter clan activity at all. I also think they won't for the reasons stated by several on this thread.
    HOLY ♥♥♥♥! A post with substance! Hip hip hooray!

    This was literally all I wanted
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwelshjr View Post
    Oh come on, you said I wasn't too.
    Im arguing against both of you as if you were the same person because it's too hard to tell the difference substantively

    Though Game321 misspells more words
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto152 View Post
    Im arguing against both of you as if you were the same person because it's too hard to tell the difference substantively

    Though Game321 misspells more words
    he does? I will try harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto152 View Post
    HOLY ♥♥♥♥! A post with substance! Hip hip hooray!

    This was literally all I wanted
    OK. I feel its what I said before in the longer posts that you got mad at. I also feel its what many others on this thread said too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwelshjr View Post
    OK. I feel its what I said before in the longer posts that you got mad at. I also feel its what many others on this thread said too.
    Maybe. But this one wasnt littered with "you shouldn't even be talking about this, your clan sucks, learn how to clash" ♥♥

    And I still disagree. But if the majority don't see it as an issue, that's fine. Shelve it. Just want it to be about the problem and not some perceived notion of what the person who identifies the problem is doing wrong.
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