A Message To Lava Hound Complainers:

[daz258]

Here's a little quiz!

-Do you have four air defenses? YES

-Are they centralised? Previously yes, now; no. Not convinced this helps.

-Do their radii overlap? See above.

-Is your Air Bomb placement away from the Air Defenses? Do you mean Red Air Bomb? And yes, thing is; the way Lava Pups explode it really does't matter. Unless your an idiot who puts them outside of the base to have most ignored in battle.

-Are your Air Defenses at least Level 6? Yes

Are your X-Bows on Ground-Air? Yes

If your answer to all of these questions is yes, you have a right to complain.

Looks like fun, responses in red.

I have done all of those and still have experienced troubles defending against them.

I've since fled to gold leagues to get away from these overpowered pests.

My biggest issues with Lava Hounds are the following.

1) Seeking Air Mines do not do enough against them, you could literately put 3 max Seeking Air Mines together and you would not kill a single hound. 60,000 gold worth cannot instant kill 1 Hound. They need some bonus damage against them; like Giant Bombs vs Hogs.

2) Lava Pups, they explode FAR too far away from the original Hound. Any Red Bombs you try hide around your core all get popped by a pointless pup which x-bows can take care of in no time. The pups need to spawn right next to the Hound instead - like Golemites.

Do those two small adjustments, and I think they will be fine.

[Gama321]

I didn't say you cannot fail with an OP strat. That's clearly a ridiculous position to maintain. People can obviously mess up a raid. But that doesn't mean we can simply declare a strat as OP and put all failures down to noob players, as you seem to be doing.

Laloon requires far more skill than hogs ever did. Because of that higher skill level some players can't do it. The margins of success are much finer. Even very good players will make a mistake and fail. The potential for proficient players to fail is exactly the sort of evidence that must be considered before declaring a strat OP.

I've been doing 3 wars a week since hounds were introduced and I'm yet to see any of these OP laloon attacks in game.

I've seen 3-4 TH10s roasting TH9s and weaker TH10s (I can do that with Gowi## too), and some failures from TH10/9s. I've had it used 3 times on my base (in regular raiding) and given up zero stars. I've had mixed results using it too, some triples and some complete fails.

The attacks are simply not as successful across the board as you get with a true OP strat.

With hogs you had to lure and be weary of traps. With hounds you can use the same army in the same way every single raid for 2-3 stars, the only thing that matters is spell placement.

[HedleyLammarr]

Here's a little quiz!

-Do you have four air defenses?

-Are they centralized?

-Do their radii overlap?

-Is your Air Bomb placement away from the Air Defenses?

-Are your Air Defenses at least Level 6?

Are your X-Bows on Ground-Air?

If your answer to all of these questions is yes, you have a right to complain.

Yes I have 4

No not centralised

They don't overlap no, if they did they would all have to be centralised. My TH 10 base has a lot of buildings to incorporate

Max air def, Max archer tower, max traps... Im a 100% maxed th10 with a max queen

All max xbows set to air, and not centralised. They cover the air def

Yes I still get 2 starred everyday by lavas. Don't lure, spam spells, spam loons = 2 stars

Im at 2700 cups

Do i win? And yes they are wayyyyyy op

[Kirky]

With hogs you had to lure and be weary of traps. With hounds you can use the same army in the same way every single raid for 2-3 stars, the only thing that matters is spell placement.

You're saying hounds today are easier than hogs ever were?

[Gama321]

You're saying hounds today are easier than hogs ever were?

To two star maxed th10s, yes. To three star maybe not.

[aTh]

whenever i see a lavahound replay in my village i am actually excited to see how the player will execute the strategy (and even more interested to see how easily this strategy can fail)

[tr0pheus]

You need perfect execution and top notch heroes to get 3 stars against a maxed th10 with lavaloonion. Same as for gowixxx

It really should be possible to get 3 stars against a maxed base IF you do everything correctly. so PLEASE no nerf to lavaloonion.

Some of us actually enjoy using a force that is so much less random than gowixxx...

[miz]

do the lava hounds cause damage when they explode?

[aTh]

do the lava hounds cause damage when they explode?

no, only golems do that and loonions (they will make splash dmg to the area they will fall)

[UrMomma]

Dear CoC,

Do not attempt to mess with lava hounds in order to "balance" the game and appease the morons who don't know how to design a proper base defense.

Signed,
Everyone Else