Why should you RUSH your TOWN HALL?

[Pete82]

This is poor advice without the proper context. Suggesting casual players rush their base will only compound their frustrations with the game. It gets far tougher to raid and gain resources as you upgrade through the THs. Rushing can work, but only with a very detailed plan and a very active and skilled player. It isn't meant for casual consumption.

I do agree that literally maxing 100% of every TH can slow progress. But overall choosing when and why to upgrade is a personal decision that greatly depends on the style and activity/skill of the player.

[TimZim]

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[cai21]

As a premmie TH10: You will have to either build a very strong army that costs a lot of elixir and takes a long time to train or build a barch army and next a lot to find an inactive TH9 or 10 or barch for solely the league bonus. As a TH7, 8 or 9 you can smash up a 1 TH lower base with barch and minimal nexting for 200k of each plus.

On top of that as a rushed TH10 you will get wiped by all the non-rushed TH10s and strong TH9s for large chunks of your money.

That's why you're wrong. Yes the upgrades take the same amount of time but it is much easier to raid for the money for each stage of them at the appropriate TH (and easier to hold on to the money too) and therefore quicker in the long run.

I applaud this post. Exact and precise!

[Pete82]

When you have a Town Hall 10 with 275 level 7 troops in your arsenal and farm Master III or Master II you are farming a Town Hall 10 league, and there is NO loot penalty for farming other Town Hall 10 players. Many assume, as you have here that as a Town Hall 10 player you need to continue farming in Town Hall 8 leagues, which simply isn't true at all. As you get stronger troops and larger camps, you can start to easily play with the Big Boys and farm Master III or Master II just as easily as you are farming gold leagues now! So simply put loot penalties is a non issue!

Yeah but to do this effectively you need to have max troops and camps, how would a rushed base have either? Also, you are right that farming is ok for TH10s, but why not enjoy the extremely easy farming of TH8 and TH9 first? I don't see the point in rushing unless your walls are maxed at each lower TH level first.

[mrloudcry]

This end thread

EDIT: Also, anyone who wants to war should never rush.

Totally agree, this strategy I outlined will make wars a bit tougher for a few months. Why? First because your Town Hall 10 will be a bit weaker. Second because at first you will not have strong Town Hall 10 war troops.

However... those things only last a few months. Remember if you raid, let's say 10 times a day, farming in Master III will give you an extra 1,000,000 in loot bonuses alone! Which means you will be able to pay for defense upgrades faster and upgrade your war troops faster.

My clan has used this strategy for 21 months now. We have seen Town Hall 6-7 rush to Town Hall 10 max their main farming troops and farm Master III or Master II more times than I can remember and today their bases are amazing! They got stronger bases and troops faster farming higher. So could you!

[mrloudcry]

Yeah but to do this effectively you need to have max troops and camps, how would a rushed base have either? Also, you are right that farming is ok for TH10s, but why not enjoy the extremely easy farming of TH8 and TH9 first? I don't see the point in rushing unless your walls are maxed at each lower TH level first.

First point, "you need to have max troops and camps" yes that is the entire point. Maxing your main offense first is much more important than maxing your defenses first. Which is totally upside down from a gold farmers thinking, I am aware of that.

An active player attacks at least ten times more than he defends. This game requires an aggressive offense not a passive defense in order to max a base. Why would anyone deliberately pass up on TENS of MILLIONS in loot bonuses for an entire year? Bottom line is it takes loot to pay for those defenses. You will get loot faster farming higher because of the 100-120K loot bonuses in Master Leagues!

Second point, " why not enjoy the extremely easy farming of TH8 and TH9 first?" Once you max your main town hall 10 camps and farming troops, farming master III or master II is just as extremely easy farming as TH8 and TH9 gold leagues

[MrScribbler]

I love the logic that defending in gold is about as difficult as defending in masters, not to mention the fact that loot at th 8-9 is good enough that you don't need league bonuses to keep 5 builders going. Finally, I'd love to see how you go from th 7 to maxed th 10 war troops "in a few months."

[webbie]

As long as you keep all your builders and lab busy, it makes absolutely no difference to overall time to max at what point you upgrade your th. I don't advocate total maxing (I go up when either my lab or builders are going to finish).

I think its a poor argument that you can obtain loot faster as a th10 vs a th8 although it depends on your play style. How long do these rushed players stay online for at a time? You mention being weaker in wars for a couple months until your war army is up to snuff that is probably enough time to get 1 type of war army upgraded if you want any flexibility it takes almost as much time to do a number of war options in your lab as it would to mostly upgrade your defenses. I'd rather be smashing th7/8/9 while I go through these upgrades then be a liability to my clan for months while I get my offense and defenses up to snuff.

[Coachamurton]

I am not a rusher but I could see that if you upgraded all your troop levels before going to the next TH then it might be benificial. this would also allow for gold to be used during those troop upgrade times to help upgrade some defenses/walls and such. and obviously you would have to upgrade the camps and barracks/DE barracks as you go.So the result would be bad defenses but not to the point that you couldn't easily get that loot back from just raiding.
This would however be bad for clans that war. Defenses are a must for Warring as a few stars can change the game.

[Pete82]

First point, "you need to have max troops and camps" yes that is the entire point. Maxing your main offense first is much more important than maxing your defenses first. Which is totally upside down from a gold farmers thinking, I am aware of that.

An active player attacks at least ten times more than he defends. This game requires an aggressive offense not a passive defense in order to max a base. Why would anyone deliberately pass up on TENS of MILLIONS in loot bonuses for an entire year? Bottom line is it takes loot to pay for those defenses. You will get loot faster farming higher because of the 100-120K loot bonuses in Master Leagues!

Second point, " why not enjoy the extremely easy farming of TH8 and TH9 first?" Once you max your main town hall 10 camps and farming troops, farming master III or master II is just as extremely easy farming as TH8 and TH9 gold leagues

It is not upside down at all. Everyone maxes offense first. Our spare gold goes into walls. It is a widely known fact how easy farming is for TH7-TH9. TH10 is fine, but nowhere near as good for gold per hour. League bonuses are great but do not make up for this, not even close.

I agree that farming in masters is easy. The point is it is even easier and more profitable in gold leagues at lower THs. So why rush unless your walls are max?