Why should you RUSH your TOWN HALL?

[AceCoC]

When you have a Town Hall 10 with 275 level 7 troops in your arsenal and farm Master III or Master II you are farming a Town Hall 10 league, and there is NO loot penalty for farming other Town Hall 10 players. Many assume, as you have here that as a Town Hall 10 player you need to continue farming in Town Hall 8 leagues, which simply isn't true at all. As you get stronger troops and larger camps, you can start to easily play with the Big Boys and farm Master III or Master II just as easily as you are farming gold leagues now! So simply put loot penalties is a non issue!

Yes this is true but I have a question:
When you rush your town hall, you have lower level troops right? Well, how are you going to be able to farm in masters and not get the loot penalty with low troops to get the amount of elixir you need to get the lvl 7 troops. You will have to farm at the lower levels so that your troops can actually handle it. This means that you will get the loot penalty, and you will have to farm for a really long time to even get one troop upgraded to the higher level that you need it at to farm in masters league.

[Guitaristss]

I have played COC for 1.5 years, and this is what i can conclude regarding your argument of easier farming with premmie bases but max barch & lightning

Your argument relies on two points :
- First, max th means max troops qty. Max troop qty means easier farming through league bonuses by achieving 50%. This loot bonuses becomes opportunity cost if a player doesnt utilize it.
- Second, regarding the defense capability of premmie th, as they are about to getting smashed anyway (in this case all th below th 10 is most probably being smashed and looted)

Here's my opinion regarding those argument :
- First, your argument based on assumption that someone at th 10 would farm faster if they have max barch and lightning.
max barb cost 12.7m elix
max arch cost 15.8m elix
max lightning cost 11.7m elix
imagine if youre premmie, can you farm those with just league bonuses easily? just to satisfy your assumption isnt easy enought without gems

Then, you said about higher league (masters above) loot bonuses as an opportunity cost to ppl who stay in low league such as crystal and below. Do you not considering vice versa?

The opportunity cost of staying in premmie higher league is loot penaly of below th 10. imagine 50% loss of every th 8 loot, 25% loss of every th 9 loot.
On gold league, there are tons of th8 and 9 collector bases easy to raid. If on two searches you found 2 th8 consists of 200k loot and 180k loot, then loot available is just 100k and 90k.
Because it is collector bases, which i assume you can 100% sure get those lott, You lost 100k and 80k as opportunity cost, while if on masters each search, not every bases i can barch one star without decent heroes.
Another one, search cost. Please keep in mind that a search cost on th 10 is 1000, while at th 8 for example is only 500. Say at the most optimistic, for each raid youll need to search 20 times, the difference is already 10k cheaper. And im assuming being premmie doesnt make you just search for 20 times each because of the amount of star-able bases to you is lower

- Second, regarding defenses. This is one big advantages of being non premmie. If youre in the right trophy level (not too fierce and not too low), you will rarely get wrecked. When i was th 8, just only like once a week, i lost 150k gold elixir. Now, at th 10 on crystal league, for a month, i only lost 100k gold elixir.
I dont know if youre premmie, but i imagine the pain and suffering each time you logout Maybe each time logged out, you lost 200k gold elixir? Master 3 is competitive enough to make you attacked just two minutes after logging out.

- Third, no offense, but i already saw your base. You said that you farmed on gold league right? Your conqueror stat is only 6500. Assuming you constant farm at master 3 from the first time you play (100k bonus / attack win), gold amount farmed by league bonuses amounts 650m gold.
Adding with your current gg of 631m amounts 1.25 b gold. Judging from your base which consists of full lava walls and max defenses, your base must cost above 2b gold. Discrepancy of 700m gold. Assuming that your daily collector's gold dissipates with daily search cost, where do you "farmed" this 700m gold?

Keep in mind, those are based on assumption that you started winning battle at master 3 from the very beginning of you played the game. I dont see any reasonable point that arguing you're better farmer than most people by utilizing loot bonuses as, by all respects, i believe according to your status, you gemmed a lot portion of your base.
Cheers, cmiiw

[irmtfan]

When you have a Town Hall 10 with 275 level 7 troops in your arsenal and farm Master III or Master II you are farming a Town Hall 10 league, and there is NO loot penalty for farming other Town Hall 10 players. Many assume, as you have here that as a Town Hall 10 player you need to continue farming in Town Hall 8 leagues, which simply isn't true at all. As you get stronger troops and larger camps, you can start to easily play with the Big Boys and farm Master III or Master II just as easily as you are farming gold leagues now! So simply put loot penalties is a non issue!

Very true! in one sentence whenever you could farm your same TH with low cost army like BARCH, BAM, ... (elixir profit) you can upgrade you TH.

offense is all of COC. But Clan wars need max defense so if you war you need to max.

[TheFirstSteven]

I have played COC for 1.5 years, and this is what i can conclude regarding your argument of easier farming with premmie bases but max barch & lightning

Your argument relies on two points :
- First, max th means max troops qty. Max troop qty means easier farming through league bonuses by achieving 50%. This loot bonuses becomes opportunity cost if a player doesnt utilize it.
- Second, regarding the defense capability of premmie th, as they are about to getting smashed anyway (in this case all th below th 10 is most probably being smashed and looted)

Here's my opinion regarding those argument :
- First, your argument based on assumption that someone at th 10 would farm faster if they have max barch and lightning.
max barb cost 12.7m elix
max arch cost 15.8m elix
max lightning cost 11.7m elix
imagine if youre premmie, can you farm those with just league bonuses easily? just to satisfy your assumption isnt easy enought without gems

Then, you said about higher league (masters above) loot bonuses as an opportunity cost to ppl who stay in low league such as crystal and below. Do you not considering vice versa?

The opportunity cost of staying in premmie higher league is loot penaly of below th 10. imagine 50% loss of every th 8 loot, 25% loss of every th 9 loot.
On gold league, there are tons of th8 and 9 collector bases easy to raid. If on two searches you found 2 th8 consists of 200k loot and 180k loot, then loot available is just 100k and 90k.
Because it is collector bases, which i assume you can 100% sure get those lott, You lost 100k and 80k as opportunity cost, while if on masters each search, not every bases i can barch one star without decent heroes.
Another one, search cost. Please keep in mind that a search cost on th 10 is 1000, while at th 8 for example is only 500. Say at the most optimistic, for each raid youll need to search 20 times, the difference is already 10k cheaper. And im assuming being premmie doesnt make you just search for 20 times each because of the amount of star-able bases to you is lower

- Second, regarding defenses. This is one big advantages of being non premmie. If youre in the right trophy level (not too fierce and not too low), you will rarely get wrecked. When i was th 8, just only like once a week, i lost 150k gold elixir. Now, at th 10 on crystal league, for a month, i only lost 100k gold elixir.
I dont know if youre premmie, but i imagine the pain and suffering each time you logout Maybe each time logged out, you lost 200k gold elixir? Master 3 is competitive enough to make you attacked just two minutes after logging out.

- Third, no offense, but i already saw your base. You said that you farmed on gold league right? Your conqueror stat is only 6500. Assuming you constant farm at master 3 from the first time you play (100k bonus / attack win), gold amount farmed by league bonuses amounts 650m gold.
Adding with your current gg of 631m amounts 1.25 b gold. Judging from your base which consists of full lava walls and max defenses, your base must cost above 2b gold. Discrepancy of 700m gold. Assuming that your daily collector's gold dissipates with daily search cost, where do you "farmed" this 700m gold?

Keep in mind, those are based on assumption that you started winning battle at master 3 from the very beginning of you played the game. I dont see any reasonable point that arguing you're better farmer than most people by utilizing loot bonuses as, by all respects, i believe according to your status, you gemmed a lot portion of your base.
Cheers, cmiiw

Lol OP U just got owned

[xQQx]

Full lavas and max defenses do not cost 2billion gold. Nice maths...

[Nyxiggon]

Full lavas and max defenses do not cost 2billion gold. Nice maths...

Total cost for 100% of all gold buildings, maxed:
732 million

Total cost for 100% lavas:
1.2 billion

He was pretty close - 1.932 billion.

Let's run some math, though, about how many resources collectors would give. Let's say you spent a month in TH7, a month in TH8, 3 months in TH9, and 3 months in TH10, just for fun.
58.3 million for TH7->TH9
~45 million for TH10
Total of 103.7 million gold from collectors.

Leaving us just 600m from league bonuses and war loot. Remember, war loot is basically 100% gold profit, so if he has been successfully warring for some time, this could represent a significant amount of resources.

[Goobers]

15% of those who voted in your poll are giving 100% better reasons why they chose their path, compared to 85% of the others who I will pretty much guarantee offer parroted, outdated, UNTRUE one-liners as to their reasons.

[40percent]

TH rushing is very exciting and fun! TH10 here I come

[CrashJD]

This is an obvious marketing ploy to get you to the coc.city website. Stop replaying to this thread. Moderators should take it off.

[MJAYE]

As long as lab and heroes are maxed at that townhall, why not? I do have a test TH10 account. I keep all the defenses low for war matchups, but the troops are respectable for war and farming. war is fine, farming is a totally different story though lol.