TH8 to TH9

[mhwong]

There's so much to upgrade so how are you able to stockpile? As you said as soon as you have enough for a lego or lava wall, your elixir is gone...

Given a choice would you crush a new TH9 with weak defence and walls or a new TH9 that was fully maxed TH8?

Depends on style of play. Play in long session, and then offline and get shielded. Stockpile only one resource at a time. Once you've broken shield and almost done with raiding then you can plan CC defense after raiding. Then who do you get depends on luck. Could be a TH7 snipe, or a hungry TH10 with a full army (just need to be barch). In latter case, maxxed out TH8 before going to TH9 or rushed TH9 wont make a difference.

Casual players playing a few times maybe 1-2 raids a day.. you're better off maxing as much as you can (except the very last few expensive updates. Its probably better doing that at TH9 when you can manage your resources with the wall dump so you're only stockpiling one resource at a ttime)

[SinOfDusk]

There's so much to upgrade so how are you able to stockpile? As you said as soon as you have enough for a lego or lava wall, your elixir is gone...

Given a choice would you crush a new TH9 with weak defence and walls or a new TH9 that was fully maxed TH8?

Yes, it's gone. A th9 can do that, but a th8 cannot.

Depends, if the maxed th8 one still has 3+3 storages, then I would take that. Whichever has 4+4 storages, I'll most likely skip because its a hassle to raid. But the maxed one would stay at th8 for 2-3 months longer, giving other th9 many opportunities to slaughter him

[Goobers]

If you managed to stokckpile elixir then it means your not managing your resources well.

I've never stockpiled elixir in TH9, at most I had less 3M of each resources for others to raid. The only thing wrong with the elixir for walls is that it should start at lava walls not lego walls...

How does having your elixir stockpile from farming translate into bad resource management? There are only like 15 things that you really need to spend elixir on at TH9 (army camps, lab, spell factory, oil drill upgrades, oil storage upgrades), they all add up to only about 45M elixir, and 12 of those are done very early on (within the first month). Now you start your 2nd month, of what will most likely be a 4-8 month stint at TH9, and how exactly are you going to stop stockpiling elixir? Sheer willpower?

And while removing elixir upgrading eligibility for lego walls is a better alternative than what is currently there (as it is one more closer to getting rid of it entirely), there are FAR more problems with it than that simple aspect.

[Goobers]

There's so much to upgrade so how are you able to stockpile? As you said as soon as you have enough for a lego or lava wall, your elixir is gone...

Given a choice would you crush a new TH9 with weak defence and walls or a new TH9 that was fully maxed TH8?

Read my previous post where I show you that there are just 15 necessary elixir upgrades (it's actually 14 after I went back and added each upgrade) before you now enter the realm of accumulating elixir with very few (and unnecessary) builder outlets. Troop researches? Sure. Those take about 10 days a pop to complete. You'll have maxed elixir 2-3 days after starting even the most expensive ones.

And to your proposition, I don't need to speak in hypotheticals. Go look at all the TH8s (yes, even maxed TH8s) who post their defense logs and are getting absolutely crushed by TH9s simply b/c they don't have the layouts to compete, compared to the constant TH snipes that premmie TH9s face (you can find those logs in sharonym's premmie journey thread). You very quickly get all the new buildings you need to design a TH9 base (within 2 weeks max, and that's if you're slow), and then it's Snipetown.

Even without decent leveled structures, the best defense you can have is going from a 14%-looted, 6-storage base to a 12%-looted, 8-storage base with a more elaborate layout. It's not even remotely close.

[AFRO]

Goobers and Nyxigg. Thank you for trying to enlighten these "Must Max 8" purists.

You have done enough, if they cannot see that they are wasting time, its not your fault; you have done your forum due diligence and I commend you! If you are an active farmer (2+ hrs daily, and maxed farming force, you are good to go)

2nd. The TH8s that have not been to TH9 have no credibility what so ever. as you do not know. Loot is fine at TH9 (TH8 is a great resource, and its easy pickings) TH 9 gets a Huge buff in offense and Def over puny-weak-TH8 even a max 8 is no match for TH9 farming army..

It is worth the jump, especially if you have nothing left to do but walls! just for the AQ! not to mention extra spell, extra camp space, and extra levels on troops, (Witch n Hound) etc.etc..

PLUS; Extra storage, more defensive turrets (X-Bows) more walls and the levels to matter so you can protect loot better.

The only thing that would make it not worth the jump is if your farming army is not maxed.. If you war its less incentive, but TH8 gets Wrecked in War consistently anyhow, no biggie IMO. you gonna get steamrolled in War as TH8, just like you get steamrolled by farmers in the regular arena...

News Flash, you can still upgrade walls in TH9, you just need to plan to do X-walls per week until they are up to where you want them. its that simple. no need to leave a builder free. when you save for Elix upgrade dump walls while that builder is open.

If you go early just plan to max 9, you should plan to max 9 anyhow (lol cept maybe walls) you can max your TH8 stuff while at TH9 a lot easier, and keep your loots a lot easier too.

I too had two accts and Max'd the primary one, don't regret per say, but its not the best advise. on the 2nd acct I got fed up with getting squashed by L6 troops and AQs. so I rushed to 9 with like 20 skulls, got my own AQ and been living the dream ever since. its my extra acct so im in no hurry to go to 10, busy enough on my main.

Max 5, Max 7, Max 9. the rest are junk stops and only walls/Farming troops really need to be maxed at those stops IMO.

[Goobers]

[very sensible, logical arguments]

Max 5, Max 7, Max 9. the rest are junk stops and only walls/Farming troops really need to be maxed at those stops IMO.

You can even go as far as to say just rush all the way to TH9. Max offense/farming troops, then move up while catching up on splash defenses to prevent farmers (though that's not really even needed; the sooner you get to TH9, the sooner the TH snipe attacks start coming).

Staying at TH9 is beneficial b/c you can feast on elixir heavy TH8s (maybe not right now, with this rapid dragon event lol) for which you can use both resources without ever having waste, while also not having to face a true loot penalty and gold/elixir farming dropoff per hour that occurs from the TH9 to TH10 jump (TH10s can't farm TH9s in the same way that TH9s can farm TH8s, and TH9s can dump both resources on top of that, unlike TH8s). With this stupid, flawed elixir for walls system, there is never a debate regarding "should I move up now?" until you get to TH9, where legitimate pros and cons come into play.

[Dinner07]

Okay, so I am contemplating going to TH9 by like February, maybe. The thing is, is that I have 120/225 skulls and my king is 9. All defenses are maxed and most troops, but pekka to three and minions to 4. So should I stay and max my walls and king or move on soon?

I am a TH8 and I am going to max out and then farm until my gold is spilling over – then upgrade that TH!
During the time till I become a Navy TH – I shall then focus on farming until my balls are full and gold is bursting at the top!!

Want to get my xbows asap! Max them first!
Then giants! Get my giants their fur coats – winter is coming!