This an idea or sarcasm

[AlvinSoehendryWijaya]

I read post about elixir and people say remove it so there will be elixir for loot

just want to ask did you guys that say people need stack resources so they can be raid are you sure?
if your idea is like this I hope you guys put all your full storage outside so I can raid you
if not then you are being hypocrite
when you encourage people to stack resources so they get raid you dont do it your self

this game is not charity I play raid for myself only not to getting raid by other
and i dont really care about wall for lower level but repeat argument about
people stack resources so can be raid is absurd
i am a th9 and making lava now
to people that say elixir is bla bla bla change throphy dont be lazy and complain all along
play session 2 hour at least

[Goobers]

Farming at TH9 was miserable when the first elixir for walls update came out, and infuriating at TH10. It is still awful at TH10 b/c TH9s are able to continue doing what TH7/8s did from the first update. I am aware that you raid dead bases almost exclusively, but with the way the loot penalty works, raiding dead bases alone isn't viable at TH10. That also means that when players are more active, farming becomes ridiculous as dead bases are naturally hit more often with the influx of raiders, while active players who must hold some loot allow for farming during active periods to be sustainable.

Now TH9 is fine, TH8s can't dump their elixir into walls and dead bases are still readily available at that level, albeit not as plentiful as when we were TH7/8s. I've learned from the past couple months that you're a pretty hardcore farmer, but when you head to TH10 you will see the insane dropoff in gold/elixir farming efficiency that is due to a combination of the loot penalty making most inactives unattractive, as well as TH9s that can continue to cripple the economy through completely dumping elixir stores into walls. I have a TH10 and a TH9 account, and it is absolutely night and day comparing farming between the two.

[BlahBlah161616]

It was terrible for TH 8s too...TH7s farmed off of us so they had no problem.

[Goobers]

It was terrible for TH 8s too...TH7s farmed off of us so they had no problem.

Honestly the best way to illustrate just how not effective this revert was in solving the problem is to allow TH8s to upgrade their walls to lvl 9, like xemonXx proposed. TH9s keep putting blinders on and saying that everything is great now, and that limiting them to level 9+ walls was the right move... well of course it seems great when you become the most attractive TH to be at for farming walls. If level 9 walls really are fine and keep the economy from crumbling, then let TH8s get the 2 levels of walls rather than TH9, and see just how quickly TH9s go back to the farming hell that was happening right after the initial release.

[Xitra]

Honestly the best way to illustrate just how not effective this revert was in solving the problem is to allow TH8s to upgrade their walls to lvl 9, like xemonXx proposed. TH9s keep putting blinders on and saying that everything is great now, and that limiting them to level 9+ walls was the right move... well of course it seems great when you become the most attractive TH to be at for farming walls. If level 9 walls really are fine and keep the economy from crumbling, then let TH8s get the 2 levels of walls rather than TH9, and see just how quickly TH9s go back to the farming hell that was happening right after the initial release.

I'd love to see to how the level 9 walls at TH8 affects the game. I don't think it will fix the economy or get rid of the complainers. But it would shift the debate.

In the past week, we've had plenty of elixir wall threads. Bring back elixir for my level 7 walls, level 6 walls, all walls, etc. But I'd say more than half of those new threads were specifically complaints from TH8 players. They're the ones that were hit hardest by the revert. The gold to elixir ratio at TH8 is totally skewed, even if you don't include the gold cost of skull walls.

If someone wants to sit at TH8 for an extra several months to grind out level 9 walls, more power to them. Heck, in recent polls I've seen, TH8 was one of the most disliked TH levels anyway. Maybe this would make it better? Hmm, probably not. Most hardcode players would complain about how long they "have to" grind out those level 9 walls... Because, you know, the thought of upgrading your TH before finishing your walls is just absurd.

[Syr1nax]

Maybe it used to make sense to "max everything". The point of this advice was that it was quicker in the long run to do this but I don't think that is true anymore. Guys now talk about foregoing 50 mill in lix staying at th8 to "max everything" and that's crazy. That's 50 Legos you would have if you did the sensible thing and hit upgrade.

[Goobers]

Maybe it used to make sense to "max everything". The point of this advice was that it was quicker in the long run to do this but I don't think that is true anymore. Guys now talk about foregoing 50 mill in lix staying at th8 to "max everything" and that's crazy. That's 50 Legos you would have if you did the sensible thing and hit upgrade.

Buddy join the club, lol.

[AlvinSoehendryWijaya]

Farming at TH9 was miserable when the first elixir for walls update came out, and infuriating at TH10. It is still awful at TH10 b/c TH9s are able to continue doing what TH7/8s did from the first update. I am aware that you raid dead bases almost exclusively, but with the way the loot penalty works, raiding dead bases alone isn't viable at TH10. That also means that when players are more active, farming becomes ridiculous as dead bases are naturally hit more often with the influx of raiders, while active players who must hold some loot allow for farming during active periods to be sustainable.

Now TH9 is fine, TH8s can't dump their elixir into walls and dead bases are still readily available at that level, albeit not as plentiful as when we were TH7/8s. I've learned from the past couple months that you're a pretty hardcore farmer, but when you head to TH10 you will see the insane dropoff in gold/elixir farming efficiency that is due to a combination of the loot penalty making most inactives unattractive, as well as TH9s that can continue to cripple the economy through completely dumping elixir stores into walls. I have a TH10 and a TH9 account, and it is absolutely night and day comparing farming between the two.

The problem with use army other than barch + deadbase is not efficient
i do storage barch sometimes when base is weak but its not worth it spell and etc
and i think i feed th8 pretty much not find so much th9+ deadbase often (maybe wrong range for th9+ deadbase)
i dont know about th10 but without stable deadbase to support this game become unplayable
lets say use gowiwi to 400k gold and elixir (its good but the cooking army take hours) and 400k per hours can be consider as bad hour

i have some idea that may help deadbase farming
Like inactive per season get th+1
Example
a th7 inactive 1 season if a th8 attack it only have 100% loot ,th9 have 90% ,th10 50%
2 season = th8 100% ,th9 100%,th10 90%
so they get push up 1 th per inactive season
remember they are not playing anymore so get raid by th10 and losing all is not a problem for them

[Goobers]

i have some idea that may help deadbase farming
Like inactive per season get th+1
Example
a th7 inactive 1 season if a th8 attack it only have 100% loot ,th9 have 90% ,th10 50%
2 season = th8 100% ,th9 100%,th10 90%
so they get push up 1 th per inactive season
remember they are not playing anymore so get raid by th10 and losing all is not a problem for them

That's actually an interesting idea, you should start a thread in here proposing that. That would definitely help the problems that TH10s face with not being able to hit dead bases, b/c the majority fall under TH7/8s which TH7/8/9s can hit, and that just leaves TH9/10s left, which TH7/8/9s are also hitting for collectors. This would close that gap at least enough to provide relief for farmers at the higher TH level.