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    It says "dark"

    Well the reason is simple: it is dark ELIXIR, so the only difference between this and regular elixir is the color!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenJames View Post
    The reason for the cubical form of storage, and the open top of the container, is to allow the extremely powerful dark elixir to expand when it has it's moments of unpredictable flux. Unlike the more common purple elixir pumped out of the layline, dark elixir is extremely reactive when stored in ever larger quantities, and almost explosive with it's reactivity. If it were to be put into a ridged spherical container, even a small one, one of these fluxes could cause explosive containment loss! The square sides of the conventional dark elixir storage bends and bows out when such a flux happens, but doesn't break, and the hole at the top for large stationary storage containers allow for even more pressure release for when particularly strong fluxes happen. Those super fluxes tend to happen at the zenith of a full moon, but there are other things that could cause it to do some rather frightening things. It took our alchemist much trial and error with small scale models for making the ingenious storage system, especially when taking into account it would be suffering from attacks from other raiders, and local villagers finding it entertaining to provoke a reaction from the dark ichorous substance.

    Actually, I don't know why it is square, besides as a visual way to to show in game it is different than common elixir. The stuff above is just some story I made up on the fly with some game facts mixed in to add to credibility.
    If that were the case, the container should probably be in inverted cone surrounded by a cylinder. Though static fluid pressure does not depend on the shape, total mass or surface area of the liquid, it is dependent on the density and depth only; we have to take into consideration the power of the DE. In order to contain the fluctuation in the DE, OSHA, NFPA and ANSI recommend the mentioned type of container.

    I am going to believe that DE is a non-compressible liquid and extremely dense, any square or rectangular shaped container would not be able to handle the pressures when the DE is attempted to be compressed, suffers temperature differentials, or waxing or waning of the moon, reference Pascal's Law. The storage should be made different.

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    Sharp-witted :D

    Very well observed lol, I didn't realize that. ^^
    It makes sense for sure and they should change the design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealchrism View Post
    If that were the case, the container should probably be in inverted cone surrounded by a cylinder. Though static fluid pressure does not depend on the shape, total mass or surface area of the liquid, it is dependent on the density and depth only; we have to take into consideration the power of the DE. In order to contain the fluctuation in the DE, OSHA, NFPA and ANSI recommend the mentioned type of container.

    I am going to believe that DE is a non-compressible liquid and extremely dense, any square or rectangular shaped container would not be able to handle the pressures when the DE is attempted to be compressed, suffers temperature differentials, or waxing or waning of the moon, reference Pascal's Law. The storage should be made different.
    Wow, impressive. Do you do hazardous chemical containment as a job or career, or thoroughly looked it up online when seeing the flaws? In all honestly I knew it was a weak argument with having a glass container flex, especially with a cube. You have stress points on a bridal material with such a design, but many things in CoC defy physically practicality anyway, so just ran with it for the hell of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenJames View Post
    Wow, impressive. Do you do hazardous chemical containment as a job or career, or thoroughly looked it up online when seeing the flaws? In all honestly I knew it was a weak argument with having a glass container flex, especially with a cube. You have stress points on a bridal material with such a design, but many things in CoC defy physically practicality anyway, so just ran with it for the hell of it.
    Card carrying member of MENSA.. We would have to get the chemical composition of DE before being able to evaluate and come up with the proper container materials. We will have to determine whether there will be a reaction of the DE and the container make up, possible life cycle of the container, there will have to be x-Rays taken of the joints and high stress areas of the container during the evaluation period. Once the material characterization team has come up with the right container material, we will have to implement a "cradle to grave" tracking system for the production of the material. The QA check points alone will be a paperwork nightmare, not to mention the material logs, testing standards and inspection cycles. On a positive note, do you know how many material science engineers we could employ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealchrism View Post
    Card carrying member of MENSA.. We would have to get the chemical composition of DE before being able to evaluate and come up with the proper container materials. We will have to determine whether there will be a reaction of the DE and the container make up, possible life cycle of the container, there will have to be x-Rays taken of the joints and high stress areas of the container during the evaluation period. Once the material characterization team has come up with the right container material, we will have to implement a "cradle to grave" tracking system for the production of the material. The QA check points alone will be a papereork nightmare, not to mention the material logs, testing standards and inspection cycles. On a positive note, do you know how many material science engineers we could employ?
    This has quickly developed into the strangest thread I have seen yet. Congratulations guys!

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    MENSA?.. I'm jealous (but that's my personal problem). Find it ironic that in Spanish, menso, it means stupid, but really it is Latin for 'table'. Can check the wiki if anyone is interested.

    Heh, yeah. It is the Universal Solvent alchemy problem. If you have a substance that dissolves anything, how do you store it without it dissolving the container? Elixir is kind of like that, a magical substance used for many things, and likely reacts unusually to many things. Then you have Dark Elixir, which is like 100 times stronger and more exotic than Elixir (based on volume, production speed, and gem cost, not on the 3 times as strong that is said in game). If taken to it's logical conclusion, the material science of the two substances would be maddening, as what was just pointed out.

    I was just coming up with a semiserious, and semi-silly way to explain why it has to be in a glass cube than a sphere, and now we have this. lol Been an interesting thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenJames View Post
    MENSA?.. I'm jealous (but that's my personal problem). Find it ironic that in Spanish, menso, it means stupid, but really it is Latin for 'table'. Can check the wiki if anyone is interested.

    Heh, yeah. It is the Universal Solvent alchemy problem. If you have a substance that dissolves anything, how do you store it without it dissolving the container? Elixir is kind of like that, a magical substance used for many things, and likely reacts unusually to many things. Then you have Dark Elixir, which is like 100 times stronger and more exotic than Elixir (based on volume, production speed, and gem cost, not on the 3 times as strong that is said in game). If taken to it's logical conclusion, the material science of the two substances would be maddening, as what was just pointed out.

    I was just coming up with a semiserious, and semi-silly way to explain why it has to be in a glass cube than a sphere, and now we have this. lol Been an interesting thread
    You did your homework, coulda just gone to the MENSA website, MENSA - Mind Table right there lol. Considering Spanish is a Latin based language, wonder how menso got lost in the translation.

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    No.. Then supercell won't have a reasonable explanation to give people when their de loot purchases don't make it through the system "You bought it in a shoddy container, chief!"

    In all seriousness, the square shape doesn't make any sense, I vote for the storage turning into a sphere like elixir, but in a different way (that's still round). The squareness always made it seem more like gold than elixir. While we are at it, I think Gems shouldn't just be given in piles, some could be lost. I mean who carries 500 gemstones that big in their hands to dump it off somewhere in the middle of a forest? Put it in a bag... (I'm talking about the $4.99 purchase picture).

    On topic-> I wouldn't mind either way, despite being big into aesthethic changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldRange View Post
    No.. Then supercell won't have a reasonable explanation to give people when their de loot purchases don't make it through the system "You bought it in a shoddy container, chief!"

    In all seriousness, the square shape doesn't make any sense, I vote for the storage turning into a sphere like elixir, but in a different way (that's still round). The squareness always made it seem more like gold than elixir. While we are at it, I think Gems shouldn't just be given in piles, some could be lost. I mean who carries 500 gemstones that big in their hands to dump it off somewhere in the middle of a forest? Put it in a bag... (I'm talking about the $4.99 purchase picture).

    On topic-> I wouldn't mind either way, despite being big into aesthethic changes.

    SC didn't send you their dimensional storage bag?

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