Surrender Button

[rwelshjr]

When making this idea, I had to think over the pros and cons of how it would affect both the player and company.

I think allowing shorter time, which increase bonus payments would be a downside for supercell, but the increase in gameplay would increase. I tend to spend most of my gems in wars (elixir collectors, speeding up training so I can donate to my clan mates faster, and speeding up spells) Allowing a decrease in this wait time could prove to more beneficial than harmful.

I think you underestimate the difference you are asking for. And your assumption that everyone will spend corresponding gems to cover their faster bonus payouts is naïve, I think that was a stab in the dark guess you just made actually. I honestly don't think you did put a lot of thought into it since you were not aware of any of this when we started the conversation. And what about the abuses? I haven't seen you speak to those yet either.

its a dumb idea with little to no thought behind it. I was trying to help you understand why rather than just coming out and saying that, but you prefer trying to pull arguments out of your tail over learning anything and now its getting late so there it is.

[Sesert]

If you are not willing to pay then why are you still asking silly questions? You are expecting them to? Why should they? Are you going to quit on them if they don't? Do you know anyone that is? Do you think there is a need to lose money to attract people?

Their un-greedy decision was to start paying war bonuses at all. The greedy one here is you trying to now say "I know, more bonuses!!" Did you sit up all night trying to figure out how to make the game better when you finally put together that you would like it better if they gave you more stuff for free?

And actually war bonuses were not totally ungreedy, just neutral. Haven't you noticed that the ways to get loot outside of war all got tweaked? So to do what you ask they need to do something else to balance the game economy. They could make war bonuses less, of course that would screw the guys that are willing to do the full war. they could reduce loot in multiplayer, but that would screw the farmers. To pay out this extra money you think they should pay for no better reason than because you want them to they have to take away from something else.

Like I said this idea has it's pros and cons.
There will be more an increase in war bonuses, but there will also be an increase in gameplay.

Besides this surrender button wouldn't be used in every war. I seriously doubt there will be an extremely large amount of clan that would surrender the moment a battle begins. Prep isn't skipped only part of the battle would be skipped, and that would only happen if they implement the idea following path #1.
I could probably see the surrender button most likely being used in a war where one team is losing extremely badly with many hours already inside battle mode.

To sum up my response, surrender wouldn't be used in such high frequency, and when it is used, I doubt any the losing clan would give up with over 20 hours to go. The 48 hour difference would only be cut down slightly.

[Sesert]

I think you underestimate the difference you are asking for. And your assumption that everyone will spend corresponding gems to cover their faster bonus payouts is naïve, I think that was a stab in the dark guess you just made actually. I honestly don't think you did put a lot of thought into it since you were not aware of any of this when we started the conversation. And what about the abuses? I haven't seen you speak to those yet either.

its a dumb idea with little to no thought behind it. I was trying to help you understand why rather than just coming out and saying that, but you prefer trying to pull arguments out of your tail over learning anything and now its getting late so there it is.

Like I said many times, it has its pros and its cons. The only people that would truly know if it would affect them more negatively financially is supercell themselves, so two forum members debating how it would affect supercell financially are stabs in the dark itself.
I know that faster payouts will happen, but I doubt surrendering would happen to the point that it's a normal thing to run across. The only way to abuse this surrender option is if one clan of the same members runs into an alternate clan of theirs with the same exact members, and then force them to surrender.
It would have to take half the alternate clan to surrender, it would have to happen often to be abusive, and the alternate clan would be at a loss.

Lastly do I believe that people would pay gems corresponding to faster payouts (that wouldn't even happen that often). I don't know if it would, depends on how often each person spends in wars.

[Ninja352]

No, there should never be a forfeit button. By ending a war early just because you are losing, you take away the other clan's chances at maximizing their loot.

Also, plenty of threads on this idea. You should use the search function more often.

[Sesert]

No, there should never be a forfeit button. By ending a war early just because you are losing, you take away the other clan's chances at maximizing their loot.

Also, plenty of threads on this idea. You should use the search function more often.

I saw some ideas slightly similar, but it wasn't nearly as detailed and had more flaws.

Besides if you read the entire idea you would know that on option #2 even if the losing clan surrenders the winning clan can still attack for loot and then accept the surrender, that means they can maximize their loot.

[ChiefJoshuaCOC]

good idea but i think if someone leaves before a clan surrenders they still have to wait the full cooldown time of up to 48 hours

[TheRook02]

My clan will commonly surrender wars by not fighting if we believe we have a bad matchup. It is just not worth the elixer. However, we also think it is funny to frustrate the other clan by not caring to fight in those situations! We have tried to have wars with zero attacks, but our international members always mess up that plan. Anyway, we don't take the game too seriously, and when we come across those clans who do, we prefer not to give them the satisfaction of a contested war.

[Mickr]

Never surrender! It's just not the way of Clash! Even when things look their worst, keep going! What's the point of playing if you can't handle a defeat every now and then? Never surrender!

[Shiryu47]

Your clan will lose honor if you surrender. And if an enemy surrender what will you get? NOTHING!

[Sesert]

Your clan will lose honor if you surrender. And if an enemy surrender what will you get? NOTHING!

You will still get the same amount of loot... it's just gives an option for the losing team to surrender. Besides the winning clan would still win, just possibly sooner.
Lastly, there are clans that actually surrender in wars, where it gets to the point where they literally don't want anyone attacking anymore because they'd feel like it would be a waste of attacks.