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Thread: I know, I know..but I have to add my story..(war opt-in/out)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mushy View Post
    I agree with you with the opt in out choice emerald =)

    And while I can understand the possibility of a major disaster, i really dont see that as a likely event or something that will happen with any regularity. In the unfortunate instances of such a senario this game will be the last thing anyone will worry about as I dont think anyone will be going to their phones for anything other than emergencies let alone a game.

    I think a leader chosen opt out should employ a limit per week just for encouraging a good recruitment process. It gives the clan confidence that the new member(s) cannot negatively impact any war they may take up and also those that are new in recruiting clans hope that they may be in a war too if the clan recruits 24/7 anyone. Also the limit helps keep the clan wars similar to how they are relative to thier size. The most they can go down in numbers is 6 allowing for a big clan to have most of their members play. This in my opinion will stop good clans with a tight knit group to allow anyone in but only allow the original group to only war. I think that this is important because a lot of new players cannot find a good clan and may be forced to just accept no wars at all for the sake of getting good donations.
    A typhoon was just the first natural disaster I could think of.. A more reasonable one would be a blackout. It's not life-threatening, but they wouldn't be able to play. To come back onto CoC after and see that they were kicked out for war is just insulting to me.

    The most common and accepted suggestion for war opt in/out right now is to use the war shield (or new button) in clan info to toggle yourself in or out. The leader (and possibly co) can override this. That's why I'd don't think a limit would work because if each individual player is opting in and out (because they should have the right to), then it wouldn't really work. There is already a hard limit on how many people can opt out because if the number of people opting in is less than 10, clan can't war.

    A more feasible way to implement a limit (though I don't find it favorable personally), is as you suggested for the limit to be on leader override. Thus, the most a leader can override is 6(maybe), but if the entire clan individually decides to, they entire clan might be optin out.
    As rwelshjr said the opted in number would be used for technical purposes.

    Btw, a lot of people voluntarily just join clan (not talking about hoppers) for good donations with little regards to war. I know one other forumers who has stopped war in her clan until this feature is implemented (or "this problem is fixed" as she said it)
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    Player Choice - Support Opt In/Out

    Yes this feature is badly needed. It is hurting clans that are not Pure war clans always in war mode.

    We have stopped going to war until this is fixed like many other clans. it is not worth the drama! Players should have a choice if they go to war or not.
    Leader of clan Ironclads. We are always looking for new members. We value camaraderie, teamwork, and maturity. We war once a week thanks to the Opt In/Out feature that gives players choice! Chat is kept clean and respectful. Come by and say hi!

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    Losing players due to clan wars

    I am relieved to see we are not the only clan having issues with war. It seems so common. I wrote to supercell about it and got redirected here. We have lost and are losing good players over it. We have tried kicking and inviting back and are currently using a sleeper clan idea once a fortnight for those who don't wish to war. Neither works great. Any other suggestions welcome but please do something about it, supercell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldRange View Post
    A typhoon was just the first natural disaster I could think of.. A more reasonable one would be a blackout. It's not life-threatening, but they wouldn't be able to play. To come back onto CoC after and see that they were kicked out for war is just insulting to me.
    it cracked me up to see this turning toward a debate of which natural disasters we should be worried about and how likely. its certainly valid but still funny.

    Because what if a meteor hit near our town. Or a dinosaur came back to life and started rampaging (I know its possible. I saw the movie) or the Avengers were having a bad day and we had to fight Loki ourselves, or Loki took us over for a bit and he was ordering us to stay out of clan wars and only fight for him. (Gosh this is fun)

    So having fun aside, Emerald had very good points and if we need things less dramatic and more likely there have been mentioned in posts Servicemen that get called away into the field without warning, Car accident, skateboard accident, upgrading heroes, family went on vacation, grounded, etc.. (To many to list all) There are many events and we should not get into debating likelihood of each. Collectively they make plenty of likelihood for legitimate reasons for a person to need a break from war. (especially if its because of Loki)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busymum View Post
    I am relieved to see we are not the only clan having issues with war. It seems so common. I wrote to supercell about it and got redirected here. We have lost and are losing good players over it. We have tried kicking and inviting back and are currently using a sleeper clan idea once a fortnight for those who don't wish to war. Neither works great. Any other suggestions welcome but please do something about it, supercell!
    And yes we lost many good players due to war. Some quit the clan and others quit the game. I only lost 3 people when we quit going to war but I lost over a dozen trying maintain war. My only regret is I did not stop our clan going to war sooner.
    Leader of clan Ironclads. We are always looking for new members. We value camaraderie, teamwork, and maturity. We war once a week thanks to the Opt In/Out feature that gives players choice! Chat is kept clean and respectful. Come by and say hi!

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    It should be like if you want to be in a war you tap on some button and the leader looks at those who have pressed it and choses from the list. But when you opt out your out for good. Also can't opt out in the middle of a war

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwelshjr View Post
    it cracked me up to see this turning toward a debate of which natural disasters we should be worried about and how likely. its certainly valid but still funny.

    Because what if a meteor hit near our town. Or a dinosaur came back to life and started rampaging (I know its possible. I saw the movie) or the Avengers were having a bad day and we had to fight Loki ourselves, or Loki took us over for a bit and he was ordering us to stay out of clan wars and only fight for him. (Gosh this is fun)

    So having fun aside, Emerald had very good points and if we need things less dramatic and more likely there have been mentioned in posts Servicemen that get called away into the field without warning, Car accident, skateboard accident, upgrading heroes, family went on vacation, grounded, etc.. (To many to list all) There are many events and we should not get into debating likelihood of each. Collectively they make plenty of likelihood for legitimate reasons for a person to need a break from war. (especially if its because of Loki)
    I didn't see Loki disaster coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by Superyankees5413 View Post
    It should be like if you want to be in a war you tap on some button and the leader looks at those who have pressed it and choses from the list. But when you opt out your out for good. Also can't opt out in the middle of a war
    You should be able to opt out in war, but it makes no difference until the next war.

    The reason is if I use my two attacks in the first few hours because soon I will be on vacation, I should be able to opt out in advance and leave for my vacation peacefully without checking into CoC the minute you get to the hotel room to opt out.

    Today my clan has decided to break apart soon into a warring clan and non-warring clan because it just isn't working
    how I wish we had war opting.
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    Cool Easy way to address this...

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyS View Post
    I know this feature has been requested over and over. I expect my post will be quickly shoved to the delete file as such but I must tell my story.

    I am a senior co of, in Clash of Clans time, a fairly old clan. We were mostly a farming clan but when clan wars came along, evolved to include one war a week. We give it our all and our current clan castle war log record is 8-2 with 29 total wins.

    Today, however, our co-of-war-base-review (we have funny little titles for all our co's) came forward and said he was leaving us after the current war (115-91, thank you) was over because he wishes to war more than once a week.

    War more than once a week under the current system is just not possible for our clan. While war is a great clan activity, it disrupts farming and puts a demand on our top couple of guys to provide maxed level war defense clan castle troops and war attack troops. Should we adopt a more than once a week war schedule we would loose other members for those reasons.

    If there were a system by which members/leaders and co-leaders could manage the clan list to opt in or out of war before the war match, then, I believe my clan could go to a twice a week war schedule. Kick/Invites can be made to work for only a very few number. Our soon to depart Co-of-war-base-review agrees.

    Please, help me keep my friend.

    On the main clan info page, they should allow us to click on the war icon (leader or clan member) for those who want to optin or opt out. Simple mouse click..if its lit, they are in the war..if its not lit.. they don't. I think this would make this quick, easy and simple...

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    Suggestion for OPTing In or Out

    The easiest way to implement this would be to have the ICON in the clan info page be the opt-in or opt-out button. The Clan leader, co-leaders or actual members can just click the button and done. Why make this more complicated than it needs to be. The thing already lights up for all those allowed based on trophy levels, so why not modify it so that the individual users just click it if they want to participate or not and still follow the number of required players for specific war levels and go from there. I cant see any other way of implementing a feature like this other than making a separate opt in/out button which I think would be more complicated.

    The nice thing about this, if a player never wants to war, they could just un-highlight the war icon next to their name and the clan leaders just need to remind players if they want to optin to check the icon before the war search begins. This will also give everyone a fair chance to play and leaders / co-leaders can still uncheck someone if needed..but I think this would rarely happen unless you know someone is not going to be around etc.

    I also read about making a sub clan..yeah..talk about inconvenient and stupid.. This not only takes up server resourced in Suerpcells DC, but creates a headache for bouncing people continually. Working harder not smarter.. I come from the IT world.. and though starting clans is easy todo...imagine a million clans with a sub clan...that's a lot of additional information that now has to be maintained in a database that is not necessary.

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    Since others are chiming in repeated support I will simply chime in repeated dissent. I don't have a copy/paste post to add though.

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