Great point! Yes if an opt out feature was implemented it would reduce the number of innactive players in wars. Depending on your point of view this could make things more or less fair. More fair in the sense its actives vs actives. Less fair when the game gives you a bad mismatch.Originally Posted by AxionXD
Leader of clan Ironclads. We are always looking for new members. We value camaraderie, teamwork, and maturity. We war once a week thanks to the Opt In/Out feature that gives players choice! Chat is kept clean and respectful. Come by and say hi!
Tons of clans are having internal drama due to the war system. It got so bad that we stopped going to war until they fix it. We lost good members not only from our clan but they stopped playing the game all together because of war.
Going to war is NOT worth the drama or conflict it causes in our clan. We won't war anymore until they give players the freedom of choice to participate or not.
Leader of clan Ironclads. We are always looking for new members. We value camaraderie, teamwork, and maturity. We war once a week thanks to the Opt In/Out feature that gives players choice! Chat is kept clean and respectful. Come by and say hi!
Axion understand your point and agree with it in some ways. We have won and lost wars because of this. That said I'd rather win a war because we are better and lose cause we are not and learn from it. And I'd rather not kick players out that have been active in chat and donations for the sole reason that they aren't down with war.
What is the measure of the clans strength if you can have a 50 man clan but only have 10 warring at any given time. That doesn't tell us how strong your clan is.
Clan Wars is to show how strong your clan truly is. If your clan isn't strong enough to all fight, then you lose. If you can't rally your all your troops, you lose. If you can't get your generals to direct their lieutenants, you lose. If you have a battalion that decides to not show up on the battle field, you lose.
As easy as opt in/out would make things, I feel it takes away from the forced challenge. The game itself is pretty easy already, you make a few troops, you find an easy base, you make an upgrade.
Clan Wars brought a challenge to the game. You don't have to participate in this challenge, but to make it easier.... not a fan. It's hard and losses happen. I don't like to lose, but it happens.
I like the challenge of Clan Wars as is.
What do you learn from a mismatch?
Besides the fact that if it's mismatched, with you being the underdog, you have no real chance of winning?
Last edited by AxionXD; January 6th, 2015 at 11:05 PM.
Why not just make it like a request thing? You request to be opted out and then a co or leader has to accept of decline. Then again, a major con would be that if cos don't want someone to be in war, they can't do anything about it unless that person requests to be.
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Keep it simple. Go to roster screen and select your name or have a leader do it. Greyed for out, color for in. Cant change once war search has started. Does not change until player or leader changes it.
Super simple. Players should have a choice.
Leader of clan Ironclads. We are always looking for new members. We value camaraderie, teamwork, and maturity. We war once a week thanks to the Opt In/Out feature that gives players choice! Chat is kept clean and respectful. Come by and say hi!
Queen. I hear ya. It split our clan up in the beginning. We recovered. Now it's a source of debate amongst our elders and leaders. Some want to reduce the clan to just those that are active in war. Great for war but then the clan isn't as active daily in chat and donations. I feel it's more important to have a busier clan and war should be something that compliments it. I love war but wouldn't sacrifice the benefits of an active clan for it. This is the dilemma I feel isn't needed
Axion. Fair match or mismatch I still feel I can learn something. Whether it's picking up attack strategies or tweaking my base based on replays I've seen I've definitely improved as a player from it
I agree with some of what you say. I can see a clan wanting to test their full strength and so they will be able to do so by opting out no one. Also, a clan that feels that way is likely to be getting full participation anyhow.
There are also clans that would prefer to only fight opponents with full participation for their army. I myself do find waiting 2 days for a clan that only half attacks to be boring and not even a victory (yeah, we won, but I don't feel proud of it) I care not if that is the whole clan or not, just that the guys in front of me want to engage fully in a tight contest.
I actually do think (although I don't want it) there will still be clans that are not on the same page so someone will start a war and only some attack and others pay no attention or are afk or whatever. There are clans that operate that way (makes no sense to me, but they do) and no feature is gong to change their habits.
The feature can be used different ways so that each clan can tailor their experience to their own tastes. In the end this is just about giving choice to the clans how they want their COC experience to be. I think that's good because if a single way to be is forced on everybody the ones that don't like it are more likely to tune out than change their minds about what they want. (Human nature as it applies to pretty much anything)
Last edited by rwelshjr; January 6th, 2015 at 11:21 PM.
Also axion. In response to the 50 members and only 10 go to war comment. Id compare that to sports. Baseball you have a 25 man roster. Football 53. Etc. They don't all start. They don't all play. It's the best of your team vs the best of your opponents team.
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