Th 10 impossible to farm any more .

[bbdoc]

Honestly, if you can't find loot currently with the 1-gem boost, then you should review the way you raid. I'm standing full gold waiting for a builder and I'm currently filling my storages in less than 2 days every time. I'm farming in M3 with baloonions, and making 300k+ gold on every raid, simply nexting around 50 times. Add the 100k league bonus to this and you get your storages full in about 20 raids ! It's only a matter of learning how to raid those TH10 with 2 lvl 3 infernos but plently of loot available. Elixir is a bit more difficult but I don't care as what I need is mainly gold for my def upgrades.

I'm a bit afraid about the end of the 1-gem boost which will make it a bit more difficult (raiding with min 3 spells and a baloonion army is not a viable way of farming when you can raid only once every 2 hours). Let's wait and see...

[Nekoski]

I'm a fresh th 10 and I'm having a hard time farming elixir. I'm barching g2-c3 and only gains pitiful amount of elixir. But with gold and dark elixir, I don't have any problem farming them.

[FrankieWeakSauce]

I am a th 10 just need to max my walls and I'm done unless something else comes out next update.

Yesterday I did 3 walls from lvl 10 to lvl 11 in a 2 hour boost day before I did 4.

the problem lies with what trophy range you farm in and troops you use you need to be prepared for storage raids collector raids are not so common especially with the 1 gem boost and it being fresh after the holidays everyone is still on clash fever

[erethizon]

Good post, especially the bold highlighted part. I also believe some players must be playing a different version of this game to me. I have found the loot has been terrible for a very long time. There must be an explanation why some think the loot is ok/good. Either SC is rewarding them for buying gems by giving them better chances to find loot or it is the time zone/time of day scenario.

I think a large part of it is a change in their definition of good. It is highly unlikely they are finding loot of the same caliber they used to in the same frequency. What has most likely changed is they are accepting bases with less loot than they used to, they changed their raiding style (e.g. going for storages), and they are nexting more than before. However, because they can still fill their storages (though it takes longer than before) they claim loot is still good. They adapted to the poor loot situation and changed their definition of "good" loot.

Unless SC plans on making changes, we are all going to have to do this. Adapt or quit. The game will probably never be as fun as it used to be. Sadly, the most common advice given on the forums is start doing "real" raiding and go for storages, but that can't work because only a small percentage of the population can be predators and still have the economy work. Stealing from storages does not create loot. People have to do something to make that loot appear to begin with. That means people have to be raiding collectors and league bonuses in order to fill those storages for raiders to take. Storage raiders look down on collector raiders, but the reality is, there would be no storages to raid if most of the players were not getting most of their loot from collectors and league bonuses.

[erethizon]

Honestly, if you can't find loot currently with the 1-gem boost, then you should review the way you raid. I'm standing full gold waiting for a builder and I'm currently filling my storages in less than 2 days every time. I'm farming in M3 with baloonions, and making 300k+ gold on every raid, simply nexting around 50 times. Add the 100k league bonus to this and you get your storages full in about 20 raids ! It's only a matter of learning how to raid those TH10 with 2 lvl 3 infernos but plently of loot available. Elixir is a bit more difficult but I don't care as what I need is mainly gold for my def upgrades.

I'm a bit afraid about the end of the 1-gem boost which will make it a bit more difficult (raiding with min 3 spells and a baloonion army is not a viable way of farming when you can raid only once every 2 hours). Let's wait and see...

It's nice to finally see someone that uses balloonion point out that it is not a viable way of farming. Playing the game for 2 minutes once every 2 hours is basically not playing the game at all. A viable farming army must be quick to build or else you end up only raiding once and then going off and doing something else for an hour or more. If you have to take a long break after every raid, your dabbling in the game, not actually playing it.

[GuildedThieves]

I don't think the classic farming exists for th 10s anymore (cheap and quick army to build) but there is a way. I boost spell factory and use an army of giants and wizards. I get plenty of elixir and gold to build walls as well as excellent de in masters. If you are trying to barch or bam you'll be settling for bonus most of the time. Either way you'll be hitting next a lot, not as bad as it was for the past few months but better.

[FrankieWeakSauce]

It's nice to finally see someone that uses balloonion point out that it is not a viable way of farming. Playing the game for 2 minutes once every 2 hours is basically not playing the game at all. A viable farming army must be quick to build or else you end up only raiding once and then going off and doing something else for an hour or more. If you have to take a long break after every raid, your dabbling in the game, not actually playing it.

I Farm with loons in M-3 I use 16 loons 80 minions with no spells and do storage raids. I have not had any issues with loot especially with the 1 gem boost. That loon army takes 30 minutes to train and is good for both collector and storage raids. I have not had a raid with less that 250k not including the league bonus....

I've had a few (3) 400k raids when I found full collector and storages in the past 2 days.

I know loot sucks but until its fixed and we can do collector raids again we'll have to adapt in order to make progress in the game.


Loot could be better though.

[powercage]

yea, th10 sucks for loot

[Doc519]

I Farm with loons in M-3 I use 16 loons 80 minions with no spells and do storage raids. I have not had any issues with loot especially with the 1 gem boost. That loon army takes 30 minutes to train and is good for both collector and storage raids. I have not had a raid with less that 250k not including the league bonus....

I've had a few (3) 400k raids when I found full collector and storages in the past 2 days.

I know loot sucks but until its fixed and we can do collector raids again we'll have to adapt in order to make progress in the game.


Loot could be better though.

Question... I'm pushing using loonion, so I know its not exactly the same, but I don't see how you can use so few loons with no spells and still win/access the storages. Is there a guide you may have used or a certain type of base you're looking for? I know of surgical loonion, and I want to use this strategy with your army count after our trophy push but after cruising through m3, I don't see how I could get the 50% and most of the storages. I feel like i'm missing something and hopefully i'll pick it up with practice, i'd love for my army to be covered elixir wise by the bonus so I can just focus on DE and 16 loons isn't a crazy training time. I'm TH9 with max minions (5) and loons.

[Superfinch30]

I think a large part of it is a change in their definition of good. It is highly unlikely they are finding loot of the same caliber they used to in the same frequency. What has most likely changed is they are accepting bases with less loot than they used to, they changed their raiding style (e.g. going for storages), and they are nexting more than before. However, because they can still fill their storages (though it takes longer than before) they claim loot is still good. They adapted to the poor loot situation and changed their definition of "good" loot.

Unless SC plans on making changes, we are all going to have to do this. Adapt or quit. The game will probably never be as fun as it used to be. Sadly, the most common advice given on the forums is start doing "real" raiding and go for storages, but that can't work because only a small percentage of the population can be predators and still have the economy work. Stealing from storages does not create loot. People have to do something to make that loot appear to begin with. That means people have to be raiding collectors and league bonuses in order to fill those storages for raiders to take. Storage raiders look down on collector raiders, but the reality is, there would be no storages to raid if most of the players were not getting most of their loot from collectors and league bonuses.

Really need to dispel some myths here.

I would love to know more about the reduction of fun, and how you are judging this.

Can assume you are talking about seeing less 200/200 raids, and more nexting, because of the storage % and cap changes of over a year ago.

Let us all remember though, unless collectors were full/filling, that 200/200 was the most you were getting. Even then, at the wrong time of day, particularly during boosts and/or holidays, i could very easily not see a capped raid in a 10 min break search at work. Or spend 100k nexting without finding one when had more time.

These reminiscences seem to be rather rose-tinted.

Other thing to remember: inactives have ALWAYS (or at the very least since before Dec '13) been pushed back in queue. Whether there are seemingly less to attack now because of player traffic (legitimately or bunnies), or further restricted since, doesnt change the fact they were never in abundance for all of the people all of the time.

So. According to your 2 posts on this page, you want:
A quick to train army.
Regular collector raids
Minimal nexting
Regular 200/200+ storages on searches.

I cannot help you there, as that seems rather unreasonable.
You can have a quick to train army, get big league bonuses, small loot or occasional nice collector grab.
Or, you can have a slower more expensive army, that will get a greater number of storages.
If you want to reduce nexting, then whichever you decide, make it as high a league as possible.
You CANNOT have all 3, with easy as well.
You can high level barch for minimal nexting, speed, and loot through bonus.
You can go crazy with spells and smash up to 400/400 from big boys in m2+m1. (2 of those today for me), and far more won in 1 raid than pre dec 13.

Or, you can get big easy loot, with whatever troops you want. In the lower leagues. For hours of nexting.

CHOOSE.