Lavaloonion as a TH9 after update

[JohnDeag]

Golem Lava Hybrid and 5 Lava Hounds attacks.

You guys need to remove the quad teslas from your bases. I know people on the forums think they are good cuz they like seeing em melt troops but those lavaloon clans are dragging your queen and cc onto them and it allows the loons to bomb them easy. Quad core teslas are not good against any attack because it's almost negated by a heal and pekkas or whatever can run through them without breaking walls. Teslas are most effective split up in the intermediate layer of the base. Also the people saying a dragon in the cc would ruin this are very wrong, lava pups kill dragons very easily. Wizards and archers are probably best for defense.

It's crazy that you got 2 matches so close together against skilled lavaloon clans. I have been practicing the 4 and 5 lava methods everyday in regular searches and I got 6 stars with em last war. Also I have never seen a design that works well against it. People here saying they you have to bring minions, lure the cc, or plan a way to kill the queen before the main attack are wrong. This clearly works for these clans and now my clan-mates and I are also pulling it off. Just study these attacks cuz there is more technique than you might first notice and you'll eventually be able to replicate them. The keys are deployment speed, a good loon spread, and raging and protecting the pups.

[gamer88]

stay tuned

[KJ]

Golem Lava Hybrid and 5 Lava Hounds attacks.

Again thank you so much Zen buddy for sharing this video...5 LAVA
Lately I realized that lava pups sounds like puppy...and minion sounds like kitty hahahah

Cheers to all,
KJ

[ZenCoC]

You guys need to remove the quad teslas from your bases. I know people on the forums think they are good cuz they like seeing em melt troops but those lavaloon clans are dragging your queen and cc onto them and it allows the loons to bomb them easy. Quad core teslas are not good against any attack because it's almost negated by a heal and pekkas or whatever can run through them without breaking walls. Teslas are most effective split up in the intermediate layer of the base. Also the people saying a dragon in the cc would ruin this are very wrong, lava pups kill dragons very easily. Wizards and archers are probably best for defense.

It's crazy that you got 2 matches so close together against skilled lavaloon clans. I have been practicing the 4 and 5 lava methods everyday in regular searches and I got 6 stars with em last war. Also I have never seen a design that works well against it. People here saying they you have to bring minions, lure the cc, or plan a way to kill the queen before the main attack are wrong. This clearly works for these clans and now my clan-mates and I are also pulling it off. Just study these attacks cuz there is more technique than you might first notice and you'll eventually be able to replicate them. The keys are deployment speed, a good loon spread, and raging and protecting the pups.

Not sure how good or bad quad telsa is but this kinda reminded me on the beginning of clan wars. At the very beginning everyone was using any base layout they like and soon players found out how easy it is to 3 stars using hogs. We have 1 side crying how OP hogs is and another side telling them to switch to anti-hog layout. Their argument was they should not be changing their base design purely for a certain strategy. Not long later, every TH9 is using anti-hog base but soon enough good hoggers were able to crack them too..

We are now in a similar situation, most of our clan wars we are still defending against hogs/gowipe attacks but we are seeing lavaloons gaining popularity. At this rate we will have to adjust our base layout and cc combination against lavaloons attacks very soon. Archers and witch is pretty useless against lavaloons but good against other attacks. Our opponent were using archers/wizards/minions in their cc which I think will do ok against lavaloons but is quite weak against other attacks as they are really easy to kill after luring them out.

[gamer88]

Not sure how good or bad quad telsa is but this kinda reminded me on the beginning of clan wars. At the very beginning everyone was using any base layout they like and soon players found out how easy it is to 3 stars using hogs. We have 1 side crying how OP hogs is and another side telling them to switch to anti-hog layout. Their argument was they should not be changing their base design purely for a certain strategy. Not long later, every TH9 is using anti-hog base but soon enough good hoggers were able to crack them too..

We are now in a similar situation, most of our clan wars we are still defending against hogs/gowipe attacks but we are seeing lavaloons gaining popularity. At this rate we will have to adjust our base layout and cc combination against lavaloons attacks very soon. Archers and witch is pretty useless against lavaloons but good against other attacks. Our opponent were using archers/wizards/minions in their cc which I think will do ok against lavaloons but is quite weak against other attacks as they are really easy to kill after luring them out.

hehe true. i "invented" a tactic that should work against lavaloonion, but i still need to test it before publishing

[JohnDeag]

Not sure how good or bad quad telsa is but this kinda reminded me on the beginning of clan wars. At the very beginning everyone was using any base layout they like and soon players found out how easy it is to 3 stars using hogs. We have 1 side crying how OP hogs is and another side telling them to switch to anti-hog layout. Their argument was they should not be changing their base design purely for a certain strategy. Not long later, every TH9 is using anti-hog base but soon enough good hoggers were able to crack them too..

We are now in a similar situation, most of our clan wars we are still defending against hogs/gowipe attacks but we are seeing lavaloons gaining popularity. At this rate we will have to adjust our base layout and cc combination against lavaloons attacks very soon. Archers and witch is pretty useless against lavaloons but good against other attacks. Our opponent were using archers/wizards/minions in their cc which I think will do ok against lavaloons but is quite weak against other attacks as they are really easy to kill after luring them out.

I really like how the game has progressed and how people are learning maximize efficiency in their designs and attacks. Now almost everyone in decent clans has bases that are harder to hog than the designs people used pre-nerf and the new designs do better against other attacks also. Just look how bad Hurricane, baconmaker, ringus, and sudoku look now (which were the most popular bases) compared to the general and giza (which are becoming the most popular now). There are also so many custom bases in the best war clans that are more efficient than any of the forums bases and I love seeing all the creativity. Setting skeleton traps to air does seem to help when they get into a group of loons without a heal spell and maybe someone will figure out a good design technique to make it difficult (like the double bomb to hogs). I know bases like alpha sectors do the worst because you can easily do the 5 lava hound technique in your video where you attack 3 AD's at once. If the towers are spread around better it can be tough to spread the loons well since you only get 20 in a 5 hound attack (in my experience it still should 3 star any th9).

Hopefully someone creates a solution but for now most of us are safe because so few understand the mechanics of this attack. Keep an eye on what the Asian clans are doing because a lot of the good ones use that thing we don't talk about to practice attacks and figure this stuff out. None of my th9 designs have been 3 starred yet by anything except a couple instances of th10s with maxed heros who knew what they were doing so I don't feel threatened yet. It's just frustrating to know that I could easily 3 star my own bases now with this attack and I couldn't before. I estimate that it will take another month or 2 for people to figure this attack out and then the lava HP or housing space will get nerfed shortly after. Abuse this attack while you can guys, even people who don't do it right have a high success rate. Attacks that ignore walls (the most expensive asset) will never last long at th9 and th10.

[gamer88]

I really like how the game has progressed and how people are learning maximize efficiency in their designs and attacks. Now almost everyone in decent clans has bases that are harder to hog than the designs people used pre-nerf and the new designs do better against other attacks also. Just look how bad Hurricane, baconmaker, ringus, and sudoku look now (which were the most popular bases) compared to the general and giza (which are becoming the most popular now). There are also so many custom bases in the best war clans that are more efficient than any of the forums bases and I love seeing all the creativity. Setting skeleton traps to air does seem to help when they get into a group of loons without a heal spell and maybe someone will figure out a good design technique to make it difficult (like the double bomb to hogs). I know bases like alpha sectors do the worst because you can easily do the 5 lava hound technique in your video where you attack 3 AD's at once. If the towers are spread around better it can be tough to spread the loons well since you only get 20 in a 5 hound attack (in my experience it still should 3 star any th9).

Hopefully someone creates a solution but for now most of us are safe because so few understand the mechanics of this attack. Keep an eye on what the Asian clans are doing because a lot of the good ones use that thing we don't talk about to practice attacks and figure this stuff out. None of my th9 designs have been 3 starred yet by anything except a couple instances of th10s with maxed heros who knew what they were doing so I don't feel threatened yet. It's just frustrating to know that I could easily 3 star my own bases now with this attack and I couldn't before. I estimate that it will take another month or 2 for people to figure this attack out and then the lava HP or housing space will get nerfed shortly after. Abuse this attack while you can guys, even people who don't do it right have a high success rate. Attacks that ignore walls (the most expensive asset) will never last long at th9 and th10.

that's because you didn't shout when i was attacking you would test your theory about not getting 3 starred
jokes man heheh

[JohnDeag]

that's because you didn't shout when i was attacking you would test your theory about not getting 3 starred
jokes man heheh

I'm up for the challenge anytime man, we might have to set that war up again. It would be pretty tough for you remove any AD's on them like you do a lot and even a lure will cost you. If you use the method I used on your clan's top giza base it should work though. Good thing the update wiped that before you saw it

Also if anyone needs proof, here are screenshots of my last 5 attacks. I did not hide any fails, once you get used to it the attack is so good that non 3 stars are extremely rare: http://imgur.com/a/NE3gr

[gamer88]

I'm up for the challenge anytime man, we might have to set that war up again. It would be pretty tough for you remove any AD's on them like you do a lot and even a lure will cost you. If you use the method I used on your clan's top giza base it should work though. Good thing the update wiped that before you saw it

Also if anyone needs proof, here are screenshots of my last 5 attacks. I did not hide any fails, once you get used to it the attack is so good that non 3 stars are extremely rare: http://imgur.com/a/NE3gr

Nice fails do happen. It is a complicated attack.

[gamer88]