Gem Boxes

[JontyR]

I thought the point of the game was to raid and steal from other villages? I don't think anyone would suggest raiding another's Gem Bank, but instead why not be able to raid from unclaimed gem boxes. I just don't see this being catastrophic. If Supercell felt that there were too many 'Free' gems floating around, they would simply limit the amount of 'Free' gems available.

Oh my...at last someone that has understood the game

To the people that aren't quite understanding this:

Why are gems any different to elixir and gold? You are happy to go and steal that, and you don't jump off a bridge when someone steals yours do you? Do you lie awake at night worrying about whether your village has been ransacked over night? Id hope not because possibly it is time to step away from the game.

No, the idea does not have merit because you are not considering the consequences. You simply want a premium commodity given to you for free because you don't want to pay like others do.

People asking for more free gems have zero awareness of game functionality outside of their own interests. This is a free game for you because others pay for your admission. You want a way to allow people to NOT pay for this premium commodity. And can you guess what happens if people stop paying for your admission? You'll now have to pay to play or the game simply collapses because Supercell no longer has the revenue to support a game like this. Everyone loses.

If gem farming were allowed in this manner, they'd have to remove inactives from the game entirely to prevent too many free gems being farmed to maintain their revenue. So bye bye inactives. The resulting effect on the economy would be catastrophic, effectively killing the game. And for what? A few extra gems because to you're too cheap to buy them?

If you had read my post...Ive put it below for you to acknowledge, then you would see that I agree that SuperCell are in this to make a profit, in the same way as if you came to me for work I would charge you. I don't have an issue with that.

I believe it has merit, you wouldn't give the whole lot away, depends on the level of attacker. Maybe have it so that you wait longer than 48 hours...it was only a suggestion, but I imagine the real reason for not allowing farming for gems will be down to the fact SuperCell make money from selling gems. And who can blame them, they are there as a business, and someone has to pay for the fact that they have a team of people creating this game.

However, it would give a new twist on the whole thing, and as already pointed out, bringing in a builder on the attacking would be quite novel, maybe he could chop some of the trees down too...lol

You are being very judgemental that I am not purchasing gems by the way. We use them for boosting and purchasing additional builders. They are the same commodity as gold and elixir.

As for this rubbish analogy of getting a drink on a bar...that is very different...it is real! It would be counted as theft. In case I hadn't mentioned the fact...this is a game and they are given away for free. And I wouldn't take anyones drink from a bar, it might have rhoypnal in it!

[JontyR]

Which part? Some of it wasn't meant patronising. But tone of voice gets lost in text and people fill in the blanks.

After this, I'm stepping out of this conversation. Already more than established things, and people are getting more than a bit upset about this topic.

I do apologies, sorry...wasn't meant to cause offence...this is why Im not a great lover of these forums as sometimes sentiment can be lost in translation of words rather than tone as you say...please carry on

[Climbdenali12]

As HiFliya said, gems are not resources. They are a currency used to purchase resources. It's like having my credit card or bank account available to view. And those "kickbacks" are similar to cash rewards or maybe airline miles that are given back. A marketing technique to make sure you continue to use their card or bank. What gives you the right to steal my cash rewards or unclaimed air miles because I haven't used them yet?

They are not similar to cash rewards or airline miles because they are not given as rewards for prior purchases... If this were the case I could see your argument...Instead they are generated at random to tempt people into using them.

[Scuba061]

Uh, no. Gold/elixir are not the same as gems. Gold and elixir are needed to advance in the game. Gems are not. They are 100% optional to use and one could max out everything without using a single gem. Also, resources are kept in storages that are available to be stolen. There is no such structure for gems, so by definition it's not a resource.

And as for being real? I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure I'm playing the game so that's pretty real to me.

[Tiler]

Why are gems any different to elixir and gold?

How are you actually asking that question? You can do so many more things with gems than you can with gold. Optional, of course. If you make it a raidable resource, then it might as well not be any different. But it's intended to be a premium currency, one that has monetary value. If you make it so that it can be stolen from other players, then it loses a significant amount of value. If gems lose value, then prices go up. Now they're gonna charge you 30 gems to boost your barracks because gems can be stolen now

And I wouldn't take anyones drink from a bar, it might have rhoypnal in it!

Ha!

Uh, no. Gold/elixir are not the same as gems. Gold and elixir are needed to advance in the game. Gems are not. They are 100% optional to use and one could max out everything without using a single gem. Also, resources are kept in storages that are available to be stolen. There is no such structure for gems, so by definition it's not a resource.

And as for being real? I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure I'm playing the game so that's pretty real to me.

Also, this guy...this guy knows his stuff

[Scuba061]

They are not similar to cash rewards or airline miles because they are not given as rewards for prior purchases... If this were the case I could see your argument...Instead they are generated at random to tempt people into using them.

Why do prior purchases matter? You were discussing the matter of marketing technique and incentivizing customers. Whether I pay for gems or not, I'm still a customer and you are stealing rewards that were given to me.

[Climbdenali12]

Oh my...at last someone that has understood the game

To the people that aren't quite understanding this:

Why are gems any different to elixir and gold? You are happy to go and steal that, and you don't jump off a bridge when someone steals yours do you? Do you lie awake at night worrying about whether your village has been ransacked over night? Id hope not because possibly it is time to step away from the game.




If you had read my post...Ive put it below for you to acknowledge, then you would see that I agree that SuperCell are in this to make a profit, in the same way as if you came to me for work I would charge you. I don't have an issue with that.



You are being very judgemental that I am not purchasing gems by the way. We use them for boosting and purchasing additional builders. They are the same commodity as gold and elixir.

As for this rubbish analogy of getting a drink on a bar...that is very different...it is real! It would be counted as theft. In case I hadn't mentioned the fact...this is a game and they are given away for free. And I wouldn't take anyones drink from a bar, it might have rhoypnal in it!

Then, stolen gems would be the least of your worries...lol

The bar analogy was to debunk the catastrophic effect that some are throwing out there. The fact that the first purchase more than pays for the cost of the fourth let alone the second and third.

[WarrenJames]

I do apologies, sorry...wasn't meant to cause offence...this is why Im not a great lover of these forums as sometimes sentiment can be lost in translation of words rather than tone as you say...please carry on

Oh heh, thanks. I do some joking patronizing, even though we are all human and make silly or dumb mistakes, but I do find myself getting mean and wordy at times on some topics.

Far as I can tell, this is thread is beating a dead horse, and would rather focus elsewhere. Like the Epic War Base thread!

[JontyR]

Uh, no. Gold/elixir are not the same as gems. Gold and elixir are needed to advance in the game. Gems are not. They are 100% optional to use and one could max out everything without using a single gem. Also, resources are kept in storages that are available to be stolen. There is no such structure for gems, so by definition it's not a resource.

And as for being real? I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure I'm playing the game so that's pretty real to me.

As I mentioned before, I agree with you on the banked ones, but they can be turned into Gold and Elixir through the store, so in essence they are one of the same, other than you can boost certain items with the gems.

But we aren't talking about banked gems...we are talking about free ones. So in the same way as I have been saving up my dark elixir and someone has just hit me with a lightening strike and stolen a load...which is another matter...but I have to put up with it. Nothing I can do, other than go and steal it back at a later date

So what is the difference with the gems that are found on the ground....they are given to you...no money changed hands, and so if you were to lose some due to the fact you had been unfortunate to mistime the building of a defence or a resource etc then frankly you missed out.

[Drakeo1990]

Maybe a better analogy for you guys to run with would be instead of buy three get the fourth one free what if you were sitting at the bar and the bartender gave you a free sample of a shot? While other people are buying it you get a little taste in trying to get you to buy it. would you then go grab someones free sample shot because they let it sit in front of them for 15 minutes? (Not taking sides just think its a better analogy)