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    I'm going to quote you all the terrible advice that you should absolutely not be listening to when making your decision, as they either have no clue what they're talking about, or are not looking at it from a holistic perspective. Either way, don't place any value on it.

    First, let's start with this trainwreck of a post:

    Quote Originally Posted by beards View Post
    Maxing th8 and everything below is very easy and no you dont have have to be a "no life clasher" for that. Maxing th8 is easy! Very doable.

    Also, you CAN use elixir for lvl8 walls (unlike what the other guy said.)

    To avoid, idle builders start walls mid way through th8. Also, ♥♥♥ does it matter if you have just walls to do and builders are idle? Doesn't matter a bit.

    If you don't max your walls, you'll have a hard time holding back armies and that's more bad if you war. Let's say if you go on to th9 w/o skulls then will you go on to th10 w/o skulls? If yes, then go on but, if no then might as well get skulls at th8 'cause it's 10x easier to get that loot there than at th9.

    You probably already have witnessed that how quickly a pack of giants goes through walls.

    _________walls deter attacks._______________
    A. Maxing TH8 is very easy. That's not the point. Maxing your TH8 things at TH9 will also be very easy. And you won't be wasting valuable elixir.

    2. You can't use elixir to get lvl 8 walls. This should have been a red flag to the rest of his ramblings. But I shall continue on.

    III. What does it matter if you just have walls to do and builders are idle? Doesn't matter one bit? Except that you are wasting the one thing this game revolves around: time. Everything in this game is eventually achievable. His goal is to minimize time wasted not progressing while not shooting himself in the foot by advancing too soon (which would slow his progress down, thus wasting more of his time and possibly negating the time saved by moving on). Every day you have capped storages and idle builders is time wasted that you could be progressing. Do I need to break this down further?

    D. As a TH9, prepare to be TH sniped. A lot. In theory, having purple walls would make you more susceptible to harder hitting attacks than skull walls. In theory. What you'll find is that this isn't the case when you're a TH9 with a decent TH9 base layout (the Ringus is a great one to use). As far as war goes, you probably already know that offensive production trumps defensive stands, so he's wrong here as well.

    5. Didn't I say to run as far as you can from anyone who tries to use that exact argument? "Farming is so much easier at TH8 than TH9 so you might as well get them done at TH8." lol he may have actually copy/pasted my sentence and tried passing it as a valid argument against moving up. Unbelievable, haha.

    VI. Walls don't deter attacks, keeping low loot in your storages deter attacks. And you'll be able to do that as a TH9, and you won't as a TH8.

    Now for these guys:
    Quote Originally Posted by Bwit51 View Post
    I'd max as much as you can it's way easier to find resources at th8 than it is at th9
    Nope. And the slightly increased loot/hour you'd earn staying as a TH8 gets completely negated and then some by all the elixir that goes to waste.

    Quote Originally Posted by ng35 View Post
    It all depends on how active you are. If you play for hours a day and can easily farm skull walls then i would say go for it. I do not think that you would waste a lot of time at all upgrading your walls. In the long run, it will save you a lot of time and resources.
    He started it off by posing the right statement, but then got it completely backwards. If you can farm like a madman than there is not a single reason to hold off going to TH9. You actually directly waste a lot of time, and resources, by staying at TH8 and farming with weaker troops while your elixir just sits there at 6M. But at least he attempted to use logic, so while getting it completely backwards I won't bunch him in with these people.

    Quote Originally Posted by clashE3 View Post
    Make sure your elixir troops are maxed and you have at least 50% skulls
    Quote Originally Posted by jobro View Post
    Level 8 walls could also save you from a raider trying to steal your de.
    Quote Originally Posted by LordMolian View Post
    I voted no. Only because I don't think you need to dark troops in lab. But do everything else. Elixir troops and spells, walls, defenses, traps and BK.
    Quote Originally Posted by VermaJi View Post
    My rule for th8 - max walls, max defence, max farm troops, max storages and de drills.
    Ok, do I need to put a stop to this "stay and do walls" argument once and for all? All these people seem to be thinking that b/c you can't use elixir on walls until they're lvl 8, that you should take care of all those walls at TH8 first. Their argument extends as far as... well, merely stating the fact that lvl 8 walls are available at TH8. The recent elixir for walls update is still totally broken and needs to be fixed, and here is why.

    - - - - -
    Let's say you are a TH8 and you have all purple walls. You're being told by everyone to get them to skulls first, b/c at TH9 you'll be able to use gold and elixir for the rest. Well let's say you are a total and complete moron like me and accidentally upgrade to TH9 despite hearing all their "sound logic" regarding this.

    Hmmm... shoot.
    Looks like your gold/elixir farming has been reduced by a mere fraction of what it was at TH8, maybe a 10-15% dropoff per hour. And like they said, you need to still do all those skull walls anyway, so it's not like you can even use the extra elixir you eventually pile up as a TH9 until you get all those done, right? And now you're sitting on close to 8 (EIGHT) MILLION of this valueless elixir, it's no different than what that idiot Goobers said you'd have happen as a TH8. What a quack! Welp, can't go back to TH8, so I guess it's time to get started, go ahead and upgrade your first purple wall with 500k gold.

    OH BOY, WAIT A SECOND! Is that wall piece now able to be upgraded AGAIN, this time using 1M elixir? Well CRIMINY! you've got that 1M elixir laying around right there in your storage. How very convenient! Go ahead, upgrade that skull to a lego. Well unfortunately now you have to go upgrade another purp-

    HOLD THE F#&%ING PHONE.

    Is that lego now able to be upgraded, AGAIN, using 3M elixir? Well polish my boots and call me Richard Nixon, you've still got almost 7M sitting right here.
    Boom.
    Lava.

    What a day and age we live in: from purple to lava in just 500k gold, followed by 4M elixir that you didn't need anyway. Wow, almost seems like that 2nd elixir for walls update did nothing to circumvent the issue that caused the economic collapse in the first place, at least not for TH10s.
    - - - - -

    This is why the elixir for walls update is broken, this is why it will solve nothing for the devastating problems it caused TH10s, and this is why there is not a single reason for you to stay at TH8 to do walls.

    So max your farming troops, max your splash defenses, be a buddy to your fellow clasher and max your collectors, and then head to TH9. And then for the sake of your own mental anguish for when you yourself become a TH10 one day, encourage Supercell to FIX ELIXIR FOR WALLS.
    Last edited by Goobers; December 19th, 2014 at 04:19 PM.

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    yes for fk yes max your base as th8 better loot and it's easyer than to go to th9 and then get worse loot and still upgrading it wont make any difference expect the queen which isn't worth it yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobers View Post
    I'm going to quote you all the terrible advice that you should absolutely not be listening to when making your decision, as they either have no clue what they're talking about, or are not looking at it from a holistic perspective. Either way, don't place any value on it.

    First, let's start with this trainwreck of a post:



    A. Maxing TH8 is very easy. That's not the point. Maxing your TH8 things at TH9 will also be very easy. And you won't be wasting valuable elixir.

    2. You can't use elixir to get lvl 8 walls. This should have been a red flag to the rest of his ramblings. But I shall continue on.

    III. What does it matter if you just have walls to do and builders are idle? Doesn't matter one bit? Except that you are wasting the one thing this game revolves around: time. Everything in this game is eventually achievable. His goal is to minimize time wasted not progressing while not shooting himself in the foot by advancing too soon (which would slow his progress down, thus wasting more of his time and possibly negating the time saved by moving on). Every day you have capped storages and idle builders is time wasted that you could be progressing. Do I need to break this down further?

    D. As a TH9, prepare to be TH sniped. A lot. In theory, having purple walls would make you more susceptible to harder hitting attacks than skull walls. In theory. What you'll find is that this isn't the case when you're a TH9 with a decent TH9 base layout (the Ringus is a great one to use). As far as war goes, you probably already know that offensive production trumps defensive stands, so he's wrong here as well.

    5. Didn't I say to run as far as you can from anyone who tries to use that exact argument? "Farming is so much easier at TH8 than TH9 so you might as well get them done at TH8." lol he may have actually copy/pasted my sentence and tried passing it as a valid argument against moving up. Unbelievable, haha.

    VI. Walls don't deter attacks, keeping low loot in your storages deter attacks. And you'll be able to do that as a TH9, and you won't as a TH8.

    Now for these guys:


    Nope. And the slightly increased loot/hour you'd earn staying as a TH8 gets completely negated and then some by all the elixir that goes to waste.



    He started it off by posing the right statement, but then got it completely backwards. If you can farm like a madman than there is not a single reason to hold off going to TH9. You actually directly waste a lot of time, and resources, by staying at TH8 and farming with weaker troops while your elixir just sits there at 6M. But at least he attempted to use logic, so while getting it completely backwards I won't bunch him in with these people.









    Ok, do I need to put a stop to this "stay and do walls" argument once and for all? All these people seem to be thinking that b/c you can't use elixir on walls until they're lvl 8, that you should take care of all those walls at TH8 first. Their argument extends as far as... well, merely stating the fact that lvl 8 walls are available at TH8. The recent elixir for walls update is still totally broken and needs to be fixed, and here is why.

    - - - - -
    Let's say you are a TH8 and you have all purple walls. You're being told by everyone to get them to skulls first, b/c at TH9 you'll be able to use gold and elixir for the rest. Well let's say you are a total and complete moron like me and accidentally upgrade to TH9 despite hearing all their "sound logic" regarding this.

    Hmmm... shoot.
    Looks like your gold/elixir farming has been reduced by a mere fraction of what it was at TH8, maybe a 10-15% dropoff per hour. And like they said, you need to still do all those skull walls anyway, so it's not like you can even use the extra elixir you eventually pile up as a TH9 until you get all those done, right? And now you're sitting on close to 8 (EIGHT) MILLION of this valueless elixir, it's no different than what that idiot Goobers said you'd have happen as a TH8. What a quack! Welp, can't go back to TH8, so I guess it's time to get started, go ahead and upgrade your first purple wall with 500k gold.

    OH BOY, WAIT A SECOND! Is that wall piece now able to be upgraded AGAIN, this time using 1M elixir? Well CRIMINY! you've got that 1M elixir laying around right there in your storage. How very convenient! Go ahead, upgrade that skull to a lego. Well unfortunately now you have to go upgrade another purp-

    HOLD THE F#&%ING PHONE.

    Is that lego now able to be upgraded, AGAIN, using 3M elixir? Well polish my boots and call me Richard Nixon, you've still got almost 7M sitting right here.
    Boom.
    Lava.

    What a day and age we live in: from purple to lava in just 500k gold, followed by 4M elixir that you didn't need anyway. Wow, almost seems like that 2nd elixir for walls update did nothing to circumvent the issue that caused the economic collapse in the first place, at least not for TH10s.
    - - - - -

    This is why the elixir for walls update is broken, this is why it will solve nothing for the devastating problems it caused TH10s, and this is why there is not a single reason for you to stay at TH8 to do walls.

    So max your farming troops, max your splash defenses, be a buddy to your fellow clasher and max your collectors, and then head to TH9. And then for the sake of your own mental anguish for when you yourself become a TH10 one day, encourage Supercell to FIX ELIXIR FOR WALLS.
    Lol, great post. It's too bad that so many people don't even read the most important posts and just skip over them to post the garbage advice that they're just repeating from what they've heard, but don't understand themselves....

    Quote Originally Posted by Aske View Post
    yes for fk yes max your base as th8 better loot and it's easyer than to go to th9 and then get worse loot and still upgrading it wont make any difference expect the queen which isn't worth it yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by badfish1979 View Post
    Lol, great post. It's too bad that so many people don't even read the most important posts and just skip over them to post the garbage advice that they're just repeating from what they've heard, but don't understand themselves....
    Lol thanks, and I'm too long-winded, so right there I alienate probably 75-80% of forum readers. But if I were to try and condense it to 5 or 6 sentences, I'd be leaving gaping holes in the points I'm trying to make... similar to the posts that we're seeing arguing against his best intentions here, haha.

    It seems like people here prefer to find the one weakly/vaguely-worded one sentence response by some poor kid that should just be ignored and rant on that instead of discussing more credible or relevant things anyway, I've learned to accept that.

    EDIT: Omg I thought that was just your signature at the bottom. Good Lord what is this I don't even...
    Quote Originally Posted by Aske View Post
    yes for fk yes max your base as th8 better loot and it's easyer than to go to th9 and then get worse loot and still upgrading it wont make any difference expect the queen which isn't worth it yet
    Fantastic find, thanks for quoting it as I surely would have missed this otherwise. Oh man, what a great day for my last day of work for the year.
    Last edited by Goobers; December 19th, 2014 at 07:24 PM.

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    I wish i had. you dont need all the dark troops though
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