Why should you max your town hall

[DarkHero]

Nice video

[Jason5267]

Nice video

if you really did watch it lol

[blackcollector]

since you have more options to steal, you CAN get more loot, I never said you WILL, but DE wise farming has been A LOT easier on the TH9 than it was when I was farming on my TH8 account

You point exactly what is missing in your post.

What you should do is max what is most efficient for your TH:

TH7-8, gold upgrades (including walls to level 8)
TH9, DE upgrades (king, queen, DE troops).

This is not rushing in no way. It's just avoiding to upgrade unuseful stuff like valk, golem and pekka if you don't need them.

Farming DE as TH8 is a ♥♥♥♥ and this is why your king is limited to level 10. No way it is efficient to farm DE as TH8. But collecting gold is optimal. So you shouldn't care about your king. Getting him to level 5 is plenty. But make sure you have your level 4 hogs and max minions because you will need those later on.

So once you are TH9, you don't have to farm plenty of gold because your walls are already level 8. Just enough for your xbows, extra wiz tower and other stuff. Do your 6M lab elixir upgrades.

[Jason5267]

You point exactly what is missing in your post.

What you should do is max what is most efficient for your TH:

TH7-8, gold upgrades (including walls to level 8)
TH9, DE upgrades (king, queen, DE troops).

This is not rushing in no way. It's just avoiding to upgrade unuseful stuff like valk, golem and pekka if you don't need them.

Farming DE as TH8 is a ♥♥♥♥ and this is why your king is limited to level 10. No way it is efficient to farm DE as TH8. But collecting gold is optimal. So you shouldn't care about your king. Getting him to level 5 is plenty. But make sure you have your level 4 hogs and max minions because you will need those later on.

So once you are TH9, you don't have to farm plenty of gold because your walls are already level 8. Just enough for your xbows, extra wiz tower and other stuff. Do your 6M lab elixir upgrades.

now see your post is very smart, if 1 problem among anything it bothers me that I do have to work more so on gold upgrades on the TH9 than if I were maxed out, although I like to think of that as just another way to keep my builders busy since I only raid for elixir for troop upgrades, generally speaking yeah it is a lot harder to farm DE on my TH8 account, but again I have over 950k heroic heist on my TH8 and really would love a lv15 king to spend the DE on, I guess it's more important to have the practice and patience to steal the resources than rely on your troop power, after thinking it over I do think people should focus more on walls at earlier stages because I remember when I was near max TH8 I could barely do any walls at all because of the price of defenses (5 builders), walls should be upgraded while your defenses are still cheap, esp at TH7 it's very easy to get the purple walls, keeping that in mind I do think people should all get high walls at early TH7&8

[UcsfTeeth]

Great thread man. This is exactly what I have found too thus I made my thread

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...r-to-Rusher%29


Any suggestions on what I should upgrade first when getting to TH9. Obviously Barbarians to Lvl 6 but I am unsure of what to do next, balloons, giants, or archers? Any tips?

[Jason5267]

Great thread man. This is exactly what I have found too thus I made my thread

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...r-to-Rusher%29


Any suggestions on what I should upgrade first when getting to TH9. Obviously Barbarians to Lvl 6 but I am unsure of what to do next, balloons, giants, or archers? Any tips?

out of personal preference I am maxing my giants and loons first because that way I can get in strong war attacks and good farming asap, since I notice most successful TH9 farmers use giants rather than barch, I started using giants a lot on my TH8 account, they work well and lv6 giants are really really good, it's still more up to preference, if you are better with barch or giants, barch is harder to do storage raids with or 3 star with but it's not entirely impossible, I know multiple maxed or near maxed TH8s who have gotten 3 starred by lv6 barch, I'd spell prefer giants though, they are very reliable esp when raiding tougher bases, one time in my old clan this chinese guys used giants + wiz to 3 star inferno bases (he was TH10 too) obv not maxed out bases, still amazing though , Spencer23$ does also 2 star maxed bases with a barch like army, so it's surely about what you prefer and how you use it, your thread looks nice lol, you did what I did but more extreme and a lot more effort put in, you'll get better results GL pushing up

[webbie]

I have past under 10 bases on the TH9 account where loot penalty was an issue, a lot less than stronger bases with lots of loot, you'll be suprised how fast a 20 loon 60 minions army tears down a TH9 base with 2 rage spells, I can almost always get 3/4 of their storages raking in 300k from a possible 400k of each, + the DE in the core, the AQ helps a lot too, as for army costs, a 20 loon army with maxed TH9 troops costs 90k elixir and 600 DE, elixir wise it's the same cost as giant healer at TH8, and the DE on minions gets paid for with raid loot, but you could also just farm with giants and archers, max TH9 army of giants and arch costs roughly 105k elixir, and most TH8s even maxed TH8s know the feeling of being 3 starred by giants and arch for 300k each and 1k DE a bit too well, I've seen many TH9s get wrecked by lv6 giants and it will surely work for farming, costs aren't as big a loss as what you get in terms of what you can possibly gain, if army and search costs were an issue then it wouldn't only be an issue for rushed town halls but even more so to people who maxed out because ALL their troops and spells would be more expensive if you see my reasoning?

I don't disagree that you can farm well with loons and minions but my raiding army of around 90 barbs, 90 archers, 8ish minions (usually not used), 6 wallbreakers (usually don't use all of them) can train in less then half the time and usually doesn't need spells. I can take collector raids or I can get all the storages on th7, some on th8 often without spells.

Just by the amount of attacks I can get I bet my profit per hour would be higher. I may not get many 600k raids but I do occasionally and regularly get 300k or 400k combined.

My policy is not to leave builders free, I'm not going to sit at th8 waiting to finish walls and lab and if all the builders are busy it doesn't matter when you upgrade your th you will be at the same place at the same time but I would bet it is easier to farm it at th7/8 then th9.

[dahimi]

I can surely tell you though that when I farm on both accounts I normally make more loot per hour on the TH9, and you make as if there are only TH7 collector raids, I haven't found a TH7 collector raid in quite a while, most raids are big storage raids, majority of the good collector raids are on Th10s, maybe it's just me?

It's not the big raids you want. It's all about loot per unit of time. You are far better off using 10 archers to grab 50k then a whole army to grab 400k.

but at gold 1 (decent farming range for TH9) I find at least 70% of collector raids are on TH9+ bases, also, collector raids are not the only loot in the game, and everything you are saying applies exactly the same to a new upgraded TH because they will start out with the same troops, same spells, same heros as what my TH9 started with, so what you are saying is like, don't upgrade your town hall because you won't be able to get TH7 collector raids anymore, emphasis on MAXING ALL FARMING AND WAR TROOPS FIRST, idk if you are even reading my posts lol

Well of course you see this at gold 1. All the TH7 collector bases are in silver.

[Jason5267]

I don't disagree that you can farm well with loons and minions but my raiding army of around 90 barbs, 90 archers, 8ish minions (usually not used), 6 wallbreakers (usually don't use all of them) can train in less then half the time and usually doesn't need spells. I can take collector raids or I can get all the storages on th7, some on th8 often without spells.

Just by the amount of attacks I can get I bet my profit per hour would be higher. I may not get many 600k raids but I do occasionally and regularly get 300k or 400k combined.

My policy is not to leave builders free, I'm not going to sit at th8 waiting to finish walls and lab and if all the builders are busy it doesn't matter when you upgrade your th you will be at the same place at the same time but I would bet it is easier to farm it at th7/8 then th9.

if you want you can max those exact same troops you use and apply it in the same way, balloons aren't the only troops that improve at TH9, barch does too

[PurpleSprite]

IMO it depends how much you play n what you go for. I wanted heros n wasn't gunna stick around th8 sitting on one L3 de drill and no AQ. I had L7 walls and about th7 defenses. Going to th9 was best thing. Got told by clan mates not to do it. But they attack way less. I mostly play boosted and have surpassed most of them in 3-4 months. My troops were maxed the ones for war and farming and now slowly working on rest. I use max gowiwi for th9 in wars n use BAM, barch or some giant/archer/gob once in a while. Right now sitting on 148k de with nothing to spend it on because heros upgrading. Also I have 36 walls left that are L7 and a few L9 walls. If u have decent troops bullying th8s is a blast. U will miss the th7 sure but they don't have de and there's plenty of th8 with loot that u can get with no to little spells and a cheap army. I have no experience at th10 but from what I read don't plan on going there anytime soon. 14 day upgrades for L3 xbows sucked n I forget the rest but I just raided hard maxed the xbows splash damage defenses and with level 8 walls 90% of the time I just get my th sniped or 1/4th of my base hit. It all depends on how much u play.... My brother has this game n never barley plays I told him never to upgrade your townhall haha