What happened to the Cannon lvl 13?

[daz258]

daz said archer towers have a better DPS, I corrected him and explained they are =

Archer Towers do have better DPS.

Max Archer Tower 13 = 98 DPS
Max Cannon 12 = 86 DPS

To compare another similar defence, Tesla has 99 DPS.

Cannon has fallen far behind, it is the next logical defence increase. And should also exceed the DPS of both of the above named and be 100 [or more] DPS. Given is fires much slower.

[dahimi]

I think one of us is confused.

daz said archer towers have a better DPS, I corrected him and explained they are =

But they are not because the highest DPS for a cannon is currently 86 and the highest possible DPS for an archer tower is 98. As right now, this moment, max level archer towers have a higher DPS than max level cannons.

Hence the point of the thread "What happened to the cannon lvl 13?"

you then tried to explain how a higher damage per shot is wastage, gave an example how in this situation you might not be correct.

if anyone is trolling anyone, I feel it is the other way around.

Huh? Higher damage per shot is wastage...nearly always.

[Natesmiles]

A cannon will always take 1 second to kill the archer. An archer tower, if maxed will kill the archer in .5 seconds. Making the archer tower clearly superior.

This is consistent across all troop types.

Cannons often take 2 shots, 2 seconds to kill a barbarian. Archer Towers often take 3 shots, 1.5 seconds to kill a barbarian.

a cannon will take 0.8 seconds to kill that archer level 6 archer ( at only townhall 8)

an archer tower will take 1.0 seconds to kill that same archer, and only until you get to a maxed archer tower will you be able to take down that archer quicker.

as far as everything else, you are forgetting about the fact the cannon fires at 0.8 a show not 1.0

to illustrate my point more

it takes a lvl9 cannon 16.8 seconds to kill a level 9 giant, but yes it does the archer tower 17 seconds to kill the same giant . . . . 0.2 seconds quicker.

[Dpino]

I think one of us is confused.


daz said archer towers have a better DPS, I corrected him and explained they are =


you then tried to explain how a higher damage per shot is wastage, gave an example how in this situation you might not be correct.

if anyone is trolling anyone, I feel it is the other way around.

You didn't correct him because he wasn't wrong. The whole point of this thread is that now the Archer Tower not only has higher DPS (due to having a level 13), but it also fires faster. The cannon is now inferior in every aspect except HP.

[Natesmiles]

Archer Towers do have better DPS.

Max Archer Tower 13 = 98 DPS
Max Cannon 12 = 86 DPS

To compare another similar defence, Tesla has 99 DPS.

Cannon has fallen far behind, it is the next logical defence increase. And should also exceed the DPS of both of the above named and be 100 [or more] DPS. Given is fires much slower.

things might of snowballed in the wrong direction, I assumed you were talking about an equal levels for cannon versus archer towers.

[Dpino]

a cannon will take 0.8 seconds to kill that archer level 6 archer ( at only townhall 8)

an archer tower will take 1.0 seconds to kill that same archer, and only until you get to a maxed archer tower will you be able to take down that archer quicker.

as far as everything else, you are forgetting about the fact the cannon fires at 0.8 a show not 1.0

to illustrate my point more

it takes a lvl9 cannon 16.8 seconds to kill a level 9 giant, but yes it does the archer tower 17 seconds to kill the same giant . . . . 0.2 seconds quicker.

Your point is extremely weak, please stop illustrating it.

[Dpino]

things might of snowballed in the wrong direction, I assumed you were talking about an equal levels for cannon versus archer towers.

Dude It didn't snowball at all, it was his point from the very beginning.....

[daz258]

things might of snowballed in the wrong direction, I assumed you were talking about an equal levels for cannon versus archer towers.

That was never the case, it was in relation to 'what happened to the cannon lv 13'. It is the most obvious thing the game could have added this update, but did not.

Instead, it made the cannon even less effective comparatively by making archer towers shoot faster. Archer Towers used to have a bit of wastage, but had the extra range and air/ground flexibility which made is really useful.

Now cannon has the extra wastage, with lower DPS, lower range and no air support.

#givethecannonsomelove

[Natesmiles]

That was never the case, it was in relation to 'what happened to the cannon lv 13'. It is the most obvious thing the game could have added this update, but did not.

Instead, it made the cannon even less effective comparatively by making archer towers shoot faster. Archer Towers used to have a bit of wastage, but had the extra range and air/ground flexibility which made is really useful.

Now cannon has the extra wastage, with lower DPS, lower range and no air support.

#givethecannonsomelove

my bad, my comprehension is slight off. like I said I snowballed the argument in a different direction when I fixated on damage per shot and wasteage.

[andrgin]

Archer Towers:
+) Have 1 range more
+) Can shoot air Units
+) Have 1 Level more
+) Have a higher rate of attack which makes them stronger vs. archers at lvl13

-) Are more expensive (not so much at lvl12, but especially at th8 and below)
-) Are slower at Shooting archers in most typical combinations except lvl13, because they Need 2 shots (1s) instead of 1 (0.8s).

The best Tower to kill archers (except wizard Towers) is still the tesla, because if they are maxed for your th they single shot archers at 0.7 seconds, but have no retargeting time.