What does Supercell have against Barch/ Archers

[Jimjamz33]

Because there should be more to this game than spamming tier one troops and still "winning" battles. Barch is incredibly boring and takes very little thought or skill. No fun imo to play the game that way. Glad they are taking small steps to stop barching as much.

Agree with this 100%👆 finally someone else gets it 🙏👏

[Canary848]

I could be wrong with this but looking at the stats and comparing archers to archer towers, L13 archer towers can one hit kill any archer at twice the speed. In other words, kill 2 archers per second instead of 1.

L12 archer towers will only make a problem for L5 archers killing them twice as fast.

Everything else is effectively the same except archers will require 2 hits to kill instead of 1 but basically die at same rate as per pre update.

Now I only compared L5-L7 archers.

If this is the Case, in summary if you barch with L5 archers, avoid bases with L12+ towers. If you have L6+ archers, avoid bases with L13 towers.

I don't barch but be good if someone could confirm with me on this.

It definetly seems like archers are dropping a lot quicker.

[Freakimus]

I mean, something is wrong if you're in Master League and you can't stop a troop composition of the two lowest tier troops possible.

I'm not a premmie TH9 either, at that level, you should be using higher tier troops! Barching basically relies on destroying outer buildings beyond immediate reach of the defense and hope for a 50%. That's just lame...

Yep. People are spoiled. You shouldn't be able to win in masters with basic troops.

[sullysd]

What is the problem? The new archer tower update as ruined archers to be honest, yet they still have an extortinate upgrade cost? If you don't like them and they are too good by all means do the archer tower thing but please the upgrade isnt really worth it anymore.

you forget, archer towers shoot twice as fast, but do half the damage, i thought some of you guys would have figured this out by now

[sullysd]

Yep. People are spoiled. You shouldn't be able to win in masters with basic troops.

its called strategy

[attehccuz]

i'm actually glad with this update. i used to gain loot like crazy with barch but lost some interest in the game. now i can make better army comp and change my game, i raid less but still get good loot and more DE

[badfish1979]

its called strategy

Yep, I adapted to that strategy after posting on the forums for months about the loot problem, but didn't see many changes. But then they increased the league bonuses. Suddenly, mindlessly spamming barbs and archers with a 100% win ratio in master III and II became profitable, so I too adopted that strategy.

Just because a certain strategy works for the time being does not mean the game was meant to be played this way.

I remember when mindlessly spamming hogs on every single attack was 99% of all clan wars strategies, too.

[3TripleS3]

SC never intended the game to be all about the two basic troops in the game, hence all the Barch Nerfs. The game was supposed to be exciting and bigger tier armies. Now that the Elix wall update was bumped to lvl9+ walls, More Ths will have lix available to cook bigger armies and thus raid with bigger badder armies

I don't think so! Another point of Barch is that you don't have to wait crazy amounts of time for your army to be finished. Even a big Barch army can be build in about 20 minutes, so they will still use Barch, because any other armys are much more inefficient as they take too long to build!

[bouges]

its called strategy

Yep.... wall breakers could also be used for strategic purposes in BARCH, but their AI is soooo awful. Soooo troops die faster, the chance of getting BARCH to core storages is nearly impossible w/WB's... conclusion, Super Cell wants YOU to use more gems to boost barracks and spells and heroes!

[Bahama]

What is the problem? The new archer tower update as ruined archers to be honest, yet they still have an extortinate upgrade cost? If you don't like them and they are too good by all means do the archer tower thing but please the upgrade isnt really worth it anymore.

Well its a strategy game and I suppose barch is too simple, it's not that they have anything against one-hit tier-one troops, it's that they want it to be a challenge to attack I would guess.

adapt, chuck a few Giants in there 👍.

Yep, would agree with this ^^^. And I don't think it's a coincidence that giants have been moved over one spot in the barracks (now conveniently right next to barbs and archers, wink wink).

As mentioned, try adjusting barb/arch ratio with greater priority on barbs or u can add a few giants into your army comp (depending on how much lix you're trying to save up). Good luck!