Give us back the upgrade of the walls!!!

[Xitra]

Why would I max research on unused troop types? It makes my war strength go up without the ability to win more battles....

Sorry, I'm late back to the party. I hadn't thought of that... Interesting point. However, it's not really an argument in favor of using elixir for walls. It might as well be an argument for using elixir for mortars and wizard towers. Removing walls from the equation for the moment, what you're saying is that you have a ton of leftover elixir because you refuse to do all the elixir upgrades?

There are a lot of different styles. Some people like to use fancy, expensive armies, which drain their excess elixir. Others like to barch or BAM and use far less elixir. Some people like to use spells, even when they farm, and others don't. Some people donate thousands of troops per week, some donate nothing. In short, your style of gameplay is one of many, and it doesn't really sway me on the elixir walls...

Some people upgrade their walls. Some don't. When I'm out raiding (Gold I-II), in the span of 5-10 minutes of hitting Next, I might come across half a dozen or more level 8, 9, sometimes level 10 town halls, with gold walls or lower. What is that, level 5 walls? For all I know, those people might be complaining what they should do with all their excess gold, since they apparently refuse to dump it into walls. (Seriously, at TH10, is a 75k upgrade to level 6 walls really that expensive?)

So, not to discount what you're saying, as I totally get it. Every little edge you can get. I actually appreciate the effort some players make to go to the bleeding edge of optimization. But when you're the exception, not the rule, it doesn't really help your case to argue for what the rule should be.

[Tidus7]

I just got into townhall 7 today after sitting on capped elixirs for weeks. I was also using expensive armies as well and I was still capped. This update is unfair to me because the people that started before me now have a huge time advantage on me. Now I have to waste more time to upgrade walls as opposed to max my townhall when when using elixir would have drastically shortened it. I hate waiting between raids because now I know as soon as I get off Im likely to get raided by a player significantly higher lvl than me. If it was to be removed it should have been removed entirely.

[Scuba061]

I just got into townhall 7 today after sitting on capped elixirs for weeks. I was also using expensive armies as well and I was still capped. This update is unfair to me because the people that started before me now have a huge time advantage on me. Now I have to waste more time to upgrade walls as opposed to max my townhall when when using elixir would have drastically shortened it. I hate waiting between raids because now I know as soon as I get off Im likely to get raided by a player significantly higher lvl than me. If it was to be removed it should have been removed entirely.

Maybe everyone higher than you should be demoted back to your level. That's only fair, right? I mean, why should they be further along if they started before you?

[Tidus7]

Maybe everyone higher than you should be demoted back to your level. That's only fair, right? I mean, why should they be further along if they started before you?

I didn't say that. I said the option to use elixirs to upgrade should be removed entirely instead of it starting at lvl 9. They just merely shifted the problem for later. Why couldn't they just make it cost more elixir than gold instead? That would probably be a good compromise.

Even tho I'm relatively new compared to most people posting I can clearly see that there is an excess of elixir unless it somehow magically fixes itself. Unless SC intends for us to raid for elixir because I sure as hell can't find much gold to loot either. When I was waiting to get to th7 I was trying to waste as much elixir as possible and I had a hard time doing that.

[AlvinSoehendryWijaya]

I didn't say that. I said the option to use elixirs to upgrade should be removed entirely instead of it starting at lvl 9. They just merely shifted the problem for later. Why couldn't they just make it cost more elixir than gold instead? That would probably be a good compromise.

Even tho I'm relatively new compared to most people posting I can clearly see that there is an excess of elixir unless it somehow magically fixes itself. Unless SC intends for us to raid for elixir because I sure as hell can't find much gold to loot either. When I was waiting to get to th7 I was trying to waste as much elixir as possible and I had a hard time doing that.

Its about luck when u play and the update going your way but if it the opposite then bad luck
simple as that

[Tidus7]

Its about luck when u play and the update going your way but if it the opposite then bad luck
simple as that

And that is why I said it should be removed completely. Is anyone listening to me? This doesn't really fix anything but it pushes the problem back.

[Seaweed]

I just got into townhall 7 today after sitting on capped elixirs for weeks. I was also using expensive armies as well and I was still capped. This update is unfair to me because the people that started before me now have a huge time advantage on me. Now I have to waste more time to upgrade walls as opposed to max my townhall when when using elixir would have drastically shortened it. I hate waiting between raids because now I know as soon as I get off Im likely to get raided by a player significantly higher lvl than me. If it was to be removed it should have been removed entirely.

Someone who started before you after September had a slight advantage with elixer (but that's really less than 3 months advantage). But someone who started before you before September (this year btw) and who have their level 9 walls are at a disadvantage compared to you Elixer walls only came out like past september this year.. and if you upgrade your walls past level 9, then you have an advantage to us who have upgraded them before the elixer walls came out who started wayy before you

[Xitra]

I just got into townhall 7 today after sitting on capped elixirs for weeks. I was also using expensive armies as well and I was still capped. This update is unfair to me because the people that started before me now have a huge time advantage on me. Now I have to waste more time to upgrade walls as opposed to max my townhall when when using elixir would have drastically shortened it. I hate waiting between raids because now I know as soon as I get off Im likely to get raided by a player significantly higher lvl than me. If it was to be removed it should have been removed entirely.

If you just got to TH7, then you really don't have much to complain about. Not including walls, TH7 requires way more elixir than gold to fully upgrade. To spend equal gold and elixir at TH7--i.e., starting from a fully maxed TH6 and going to a fully maxed TH7--you can still upgrade almost half your walls from level 6 to level 7. After you factor in that you'll burn more elixir on armies/spells than gold on traps, you could probably upgrade 2/3 of your walls with even gold/elixir splits. If you can't get half your walls upgraded by the time you run out of things to upgrade with elixir, it means you farmed more elixir than gold. That's a farming issue, not an issue with the cost of upgrades.

Conservatively speaking, you can upgrade half your walls at TH7 with just gold. If you want to grind out the other half, that's only a few days to a few weeks of extra gold to farm, depending on how well you farm. Otherwise, just go to TH8 with half your walls still at level 6. You should be able to get them up to level 7 more quickly at level 8.

The real grind is at TH8, where the basic upgrades (not including walls) already cost much, much more gold than elixir. If you're complaining at TH7, you'll never have the patience for TH8.

[Xitra]

I didn't say that. I said the option to use elixirs to upgrade should be removed entirely instead of it starting at lvl 9. They just merely shifted the problem for later. Why couldn't they just make it cost more elixir than gold instead? That would probably be a good compromise.

I've suggested having elixir walls at level 7 and up, but have them cost more in elixir than in gold. Many ways that can be done: a flat fee of say 500k or 1000k on all walls.

Another option might be a progressive fee that increases in absolute terms, but decreases in relative terms.

For example:

Level	Gold	Elixir	Elixir Fee	Fee %
7	200,000	400,000	200,000	100%
8	500,000	800,000	300,000	60%
9	1,000,000	1,500,000	500,000	50%
10	3,000,000	3,750,000	750,000	25%
11	4,000,000	4,800,000	800,000	20%

[TheFirstSteven]

This whole thread basically boils down too two main sides: the greedy th8s that are all for this elixir wall thing then the th9-10s that actually know what effects this update would have on the economy.

The whole arguement for the th8s is them being flooded with elixir then them being too greedy to just let the excess go. They don't need it so why should they be opposed to th9 and 10 taking it away from them???Its because they are so greedy that they want the elixir walls back just to stop th9-10 from raiding them and getting it. This is basically exactly what happened b4 this elixir wall update was reverted the greedy th8's would use the elixir walls as a resource dump to stop th9-10s from getting it which lead to th9-10s being starved of elixir. If anything th9-10s need more elixir than the th8s have storage for anyway so why should th8s be allowed to collapse the economy for th9-10s(which is exactly what happened b4)when th8s don't need the elixir anyway!?!?