Give us back the upgrade of the walls!!!

[irmtfan]

I did math for TH8 mate and the gold/elixir portion is totally unbalance.
The below Table is all upgrades and new defenses in Town Hall 8 IF you enter to TH8 with everything max.
I exclude mine and collectors lvl12.

name	order	lvl	No. lvl	Cost elixir	Total Cost elixir	Cost gold	Total Cost gold	Cost DE	Total Cost DE	time (day)	Total time
Lab	1	6	1	1,000,000	1,000,000					4	4
Clan Castle	1	4	1			1,800,000	1,800,000			2	2
mortar (new)		1,2,3,4,5	1			1,360,000	1,360,000			7.83	7.83
mortar		6	4			1,600,000	6,400,000			5	20
wizard tower (new)		1,2,3,4	1			2,540,000	2,540,000			6.5	6.5
wizard tower		5,6	3			4,640,000	13,920,000			9	27
cannon		9,10	5			2,400,000	12,000,000			7	35
archer tower (new)		1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8	1			1,368,000	1,368,000			7	7
archer tower		9,10	4			4,000,000	16,000,000			9	36
Air defense (new)		1,2,3,4,5	1			2,002,500	2,002,500			15.21	15.21
Air defense		6	3			2,160,000	6,480,000			8	24
hidden tesla (new)		1,2,3	1			3,750,000	3,750,000			9	9
hidden tesla		4,5,6	3			7,500,000	22,500,000			24	72
Bomb		5	6			1,000,000	6,000,000			1	6
Spring Trap (new)		…	2			2,000	4,000			0	0
Giant bomb (new)		1,2	1			87,500	87,500			0.25	0.25
Giant bomb		3	3			750,000	2,250,000			1	3
Air Bomb new		1,2	2			24,000	48,000			0.1667	0.33333
Air Bomb		3	4			200,000	800,000			0.5	2
Seeking Air Mine (new)		1	1			15,000	15,000			0	0
Skeleton Trap (new)		1,2	2			606,000	1,212,000			0.25	0.5
Barracks		10	4	2,000,000	8,000,000					6	24
Dark Barracks (new)		1,2	1	2,000,000	2,000,000					8	8
Dark Barracks		3,4	2	4,000,000	8,000,000					13	26
gold storage (new)		1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11	1	948,550	948,550					4.52	4.52
elixir storage (new)		1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11	1			948,550	948,550			4.52	4.52
DE Drill (new)	3	1,2,3	1	4,500,000	4,500,000					6	6
DE storage		3,4	1	4,200,000	4,200,000					7	7
walls(new) *50		1,2,3,4,5,6,7	50			321,200	16,060,000			0	0
walls		8	225			500,000	112,500,000			0	0
Barbarian King		6,7,8,9,10	1					152,500	152,500	17.5	17.5
Town Hall		9	1			3,000,000	3,000,000			10	10
research - barbar	2	5	1	1,500,000	1,500,000					5
research - archer	1	5	1	2,250,000	2,250,000					5
research - goblin	12	5	1	2,250,000	2,250,000					5
research - giant	3	5	1	2,250,000	2,250,000					5
research - WB	11	5	1	2,250,000	2,250,000					5
research - Ballon	13	5	1	2,500,000	2,500,000					5
research - wizard	10	5	1	2,500,000	2,500,000					5
research - Healer	4	3	1	1,500,000	1,500,000					5
research - Dragon	7	3	1	3,000,000	3,000,000					10
research - PEKKA		2,3	1	9,000,000	9,000,000					22
research - Light spell		5	1	2,000,000	2,000,000					4
research - Heal spell	5	5	1	2,400,000	2,400,000					5
research - Rage spell	9	5	1	3,000,000	3,000,000					7
research - Minion	14	3,4	1					50,000	50,000	13
research - Hog rider	15	3,4	1					70,000	70,000	22
research - Valkyrie		2	1					50,000	50,000	10
research - Golem		2	1					60,000	60,000	10
sum					64,048,550		231,245,550		382,500	143	385.17

As you can see total gold needed for maxing TH8 is 231,245,550 include walls.
without walls lvl8 it is still more than total elixir needed:

102,685,550

So it is obvious!!!!

With 4 builders TH8 will be completed in 385/4= 97 Days.
You have to farm 3 million gold per day to complete walls in 100 days.

Researches need elixir but it is also very time consuming. for PEKKA you need 3M+6M=9M elixir but It will take 22 days!!!. In such a long time you can gather elixir with ease.
But walls are instant.
Im now a middle TH7 and want to max my lvl7 walls in TH7 but with this new update I will not complete my lvl8 walls in TH8 because it is more easier to max them in TH9.

[daz258]

But walls are instant..

Which is exactly why SuperCell are stopping it, instant means that elixir is instantly removed from the game and cannot be raided.

Gold never has the same problem as there are far more expensive upgrades to save for, therefore players often have gold worth raiding.

The game is about making raiding fun, not getting cheap walls faster.

[irmtfan]

Which is exactly why SuperCell are stopping it

Yeah It is good but it is unfair unless supercell could find a way to undo all previously elixir-built walls.
Upgrading walls with elixir was a huge mistake. Now supercell want to correct this mistake with this new update but It is a real time game so supercell cannot undo any mistake. It would be unfair because one should break previously elixir-built walls to find some gold for his walls.
At least supercell should accept this mistake and should apologize for it.

[iDrakon]

Yeah It is good but it is unfair unless supercell could find a way to undo all previously elixir-built walls.
Upgrading walls with elixir was a huge mistake. Now supercell want to correct this mistake with this new update but It is a real time game so supercell cannot undo any mistake. It would be unfair because one should break previously elixir-built walls to find some gold for his walls.
At least supercell should accept this mistake and should apologize for it.

Upgrading walls with elixir was never a mistake I think it put resources to a good balance.

The only ones who think this is a good update is those who are already th9 or th10 that are not affected by this.

If finding elixir was that big of a problem for you then let us upgrade walls up to lvl 8 with gold/elixir and 9+ with gold. That way those high th's will have elixir to raid in high Town halls.

And stop with the "we had to suffer through the gold walls, you guys can do it too" just because your grandma had no internet doesn't mean you shouldnt too.

[firestar123]

Upgrading walls with elixir was never a mistake I think it put resources to a good balance.

The only ones who think this is a good update is those who are already th9 or th10 that are not affected by this.

If finding elixir was that big of a problem for you then let us upgrade walls up to lvl 8 with gold/elixir and 9+ with gold. That way those high th's will have elixir to raid in high Town halls.

And stop with the "we had to suffer through the gold walls, you guys can do it too" just because your grandma had no internet doesn't mean you shouldnt too.

Well, it's ridiculously hard for me to raid a th10 with all their infernos and X bows killing my BAM. So that leaves other th9's. Th10's can Attack th9's so that means th9 would be bad th for loot. th10 can attack th9 and get a ton of loot, Th9 can attack th8 and get lots of loot unless the th8's spend Thier Elixer and gold on walls, th8 attacks th7 which will spend all thier loot on walls, etc.

BTW a recent study has shown that everyone is ATLEAST 50th cousins with each other, stop insulting your family.

[iDrakon]

Yeah It is good but it is unfair unless supercell could find a way to undo all previously elixir-built walls.
Upgrading walls with elixir was a huge mistake. Now supercell want to correct this mistake with this new update but It is a real time game so supercell cannot undo any mistake. It would be unfair because one should break previously elixir-built walls to find some gold for his walls.
At least supercell should accept this mistake and should apologize for it.

Well, it's ridiculously hard for me to raid a th10 with all their infernos and X bows killing my BAM. So that leaves other th9's. Th10's can Attack th9's so that means th9 would be bad th for loot. th10 can attack th9 and get a ton of loot, Th9 can attack th8 and get lots of loot unless the th8's spend Thier Elixer and gold on walls, th8 attacks th7 which will spend all thier loot on walls, etc.

BTW a recent study has shown that everyone is ATLEAST 50th cousins with each other, stop insulting your family.

I couldn't care less about you family or not lol

You are complaining about not knowing how to raid on the melixir system lol okay.

And I never had a problem with elixir th6, 7, or 8 until this update so you sir are wrong.

[firestar123]

I couldn't care less about you family or not lol

You are complaining about not knowing how to raid on the melixir system lol okay.

And I never had a problem with elixir th6, 7, or 8 until this update so you sir are wrong.

Ok let's say you need elixir for your 500k walls, th7's would have spent all thier elixer on thier walls, where will you find loot?

[FireThief]

"The old way it was" didn't allow you to use elixir for walls at any level. Making walls upgradeable with elixir crushed the games economy except for TH7 and below. Lvl9 and up is a step towards fixing what was terribly broken. Lvl10 would probably have been a better choice but at least this was a tangible step in the correct direction.

I personally think it should be for th9 +

[iDrakon]

Ok let's say you need elixir for your 500k walls, th7's would have spent all thier elixer on thier walls, where will you find loot?

I never had a problem with loot. I raid every 10 mins with barcher or BAM and get 200k gold and or elixer a raid.

Never did never will. All that changed is now I cant upgrade walls. And even ore people with rush their walls and have pink walls at th9 lol

[Seaweed]

If you think farming for level 8 walls and below is hard... Then you probably need to quit now cause Th9-Th10 upgrades alone will cripple you

think of how unfair it was for us who maxed our walls past level 9 before the elixer wall upgrades came out. To the guy who did the unbalanced gold vs elixer calculation for th8, we've wasted a tonne more during our th9 days when the gold vs elixer difference was wayy bigger. At least you guys manage to use some elixer on some of your walls that were below legos.

all the best! (Finally managed to max my lavas )