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    The increase may seem small, but as others have pointed it, when you do the math it isn't small!! A 500/hr increase is like 84,000 more per day once all 7 collectors are done. That's significant! My only wish was that SC would have put an incentive in the update to get people to upgrade collectors faster, like 1 gem completion of collector upgrades for the holiday update. For the sake of the loot economy, people really do need to do this upgrade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggitygoo View Post
    You are seriously deluded if you're going to propose that people won't bother 'wasting' time playing this game. It's the ultimate purpose. In the end everybody upgrades everything. 5 days per collector is next to nothing compared to the cannons and archer towers everybody seems to upgrade. Sure there are plenty of people who haven't fully upgraded their mines, usually the same who have not upgraded their base fully. But the percentage of people who have maxed out defence but not maxed out pumps is very small.

    There is no strategic benefit to not upgrading something at all. There only is in the order of upgrading, but finally everything that is upgraded is stronger, better, and in the case of collectors more profitable. The fact that you receive a 17% increase in collector income after 60 somewhat days of upgrading is huge. If you cannot grasp that I suggest you grab your calculator and literally do the math.
    Are you coherent? I never said people waste time playing. I said in their minds 5 days on mines is a waste of a good builder for too little gain. Look at some of your matchups when raiding. Scrubby level 5,6,7 mines. The majority of people don't bother now. What's making them bother for a miniscule 500 an hour? Nothing. No achievements and not enough per hour to make anyone say, "oh man I can't wait to get my collectors levelled! " It's just how people are.

    Nw for your clarity ....

    I upgrade all MY COLLECTORS. Always have asap. Others RARELY upgrade THEIR COLLECTORS.

    You sit there trying to explain to me why should upgrade. When I'm stating I will upgrade ... majority will not. That's my issue. And that's why it won't end up making a difference.

    Btw ... lol I can do the math. It's pretty paltry with upgrades this expensive. Maybe I'll gem a one week shield to save up for one wall segment lol. Maybe upgrade a big bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramb02 View Post
    The increase may seem small, but as others have pointed it, when you do the math it isn't small!! A 500/hr increase is like 84,000 more per day once all 7 collectors are done. That's significant! My only wish was that SC would have put an incentive in the update to get people to upgrade collectors faster, like 1 gem completion of collector upgrades for the holiday update. For the sake of the loot economy, people really do need to do this upgrade!
    84 k more per day in a game with several million gold upgrades is not significant. Sorry but it isn't. It won't be noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danip View Post
    84 k more per day in a game with several million gold upgrades is not significant. Sorry but it isn't. It won't be noticeable.
    Not true. Only fools would have this logic. Only fools don't upgrade their collectors and mines ASAP. No matter how active or inactive a player is, these upgrades would only help.

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    Level 11 Mine/Pump = 3000 * 7 = 21,000 per day = 630,000 per month.

    Level 12 Mine/Pump = 3500 * 7 = 24500 per day = 735,000 per month.

    Roughly a 17 % increase in loot production.....its nothing to sneeze at, but its not game changing and its worse for anyone TH9 and TH8.

    How about fix the troop AI, specifically Heroes and Wall breakers......
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    Quote Originally Posted by iDANglin View Post
    Not true. Only fools would have this logic. Only fools don't upgrade their collectors and mines ASAP. No matter how active or inactive a player is, these upgrades would only help.
    I have maxed collectors asap. This is such minimal gain that it is indeed next to useless. Upgrade yours. Upgrade them all. Gem them. The difference will not be noticeable. If you need to forecast the difference over a month of time ... you will perceive no difference when you click to collect. as I stated...it does not help if people don't do it. And if everyone does it ... it's imperceptible. This is from a proponent of another collector level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danip View Post
    84 k more per day in a game with several million gold upgrades is not significant. Sorry but it isn't. It won't be noticeable.

    Selfish attitute.......



    People have been bicthing about loot for months ..... now given the chance to upgrade, and get an increase of 84k, people moan they wont notice it in their base ....


    You will eventually, possibly not your own loot, but overall, 84k extra loot per base, (over 100's of thousands of bases) is an awfull lot more loot in the system.... where do you think the loot in other peoples storages come from? If they have more - you can steal more ... simple



    Dont upgrade if you dont want too..... but sure as hell dont come back in January bicthing and whining about no loot, and being unable to find inactives.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by victort View Post
    Selfish attitute.......



    People have been bicthing about loot for months ..... now given the chance to upgrade, and get an increase of 84k, people moan they wont notice it in their base ....


    You will eventually, possibly not your own loot, but overall, 84k extra loot per base, is an awfull lot more loot in the system.... where do you think the loot in other peoples storages come from? If they have more - you can steal more ... simple



    Dont upgrade if you dont want too..... but sure as hell dont come back in January bicthing and whining about no loot, and being unable to find inactives.............

    This has to be the dumbest community I've ever seen.

    Will caps lock help you mental invalids?

    I ALWAYS UPGRADE ALL MY COLLECTORS. MY ISSUE IS THERE IS NO INCENTIVE FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME.

    Clear as mud?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danip View Post
    This has to be the dumbest community I've ever seen.

    Will caps lock help you mental invalids?

    I ALWAYS UPGRADE ALL MY COLLECTORS. MY ISSUE IS THERE IS NO INCENTIVE FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME.

    Clear as mud?


    My dad always said arguing with idiots only brings you down to their level ..... Looks like he was right




    Again .... the incentive is the extra 84k in all those 100s of thousands of bases......



    As I said in my post ... those who dont do it, fine, just dont come here later bicthing and whining....





    Is that clear enough?



    or do you need it in CAPS just so you can form the letters as you try reading aloud?
    Last edited by victort; December 11th, 2014 at 10:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danip View Post
    This has to be the dumbest community I've ever seen.

    Will caps lock help you mental invalids?

    I ALWAYS UPGRADE ALL MY COLLECTORS. MY ISSUE IS THERE IS NO INCENTIVE FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME.

    Clear as mud?
    Your point was clear as day, as it's irrelevant whether you upgrade collectors yourself or not. I simply disagree, with good reason. People will upgrade to level 12 collector eventually, as they will do every upgrade eventually. Sure some won't right away, but the same people who bothered to upgrade to lvl 11 will also upgrade to lvl 12. It has the same increase in production.

    I apologise if I sounded condescending earlier, but there is almost no debating this. You and me both will never know the actual numbers but if you play this game in any league where you only see TH9 and 10 you know 80% has maxed their pumps, if that is any indication.
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